I am way late on this thread but my experience with IBM has been horrible.
At the widget factory I was at, we switched from Dell to IBM because the
newish CIO was from IBM. Our DOA rates went up to about 30% from about 0%.
We implemented new procedures to burn in every DC for a couple of weeks
prior to use because we had so many failures and had to rebuild them. 

Also the pricing was no where near similar. We could have picked up several
8-ways for the cost of a single IBM 8-way.

I can't speak to the HP hardware, it has been way too long since I have
directly worked with it or seen costing. 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Renouf
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: HP vs Dell servers

I have always preferred IBM servers personally. For tech they tend to be
about 6 months ahead of HP and Dell and if you're a good sized company you
can actually get an IBM server for less than HP.

HP makes a great product too but the support depends on who you get your
maintenance from and can vary greatly. Dell servers are alright as well, but
as mentioned I don't think their tools are up to the same level as IBM and
HP.

Phil

On 8/12/05, Chris Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you contacted your local HP rep, or VAR?  Yes, one can argue that 
> servers are a commodity today.  HP tends to be a far superior product, 
> in both reliability, support, and to a certain degree performance.
> 
> One of the drawbacks of Dell is the fact they only supply Intel-based 
> servers.  The AMD Opteron systems I have implemented have not only 
> cost less than the Intel servers, but have kicked their a$$ up and 
> down the datacenter.
> 
> Plus, the management tools HP offers is more mature than IT Assistant is.
> Both vendors have different roads for their management applications.  
> HP SIM continues to evolve and support multiple platforms (not just 
> HP, but SNMP-based systems, etc).  While Dell partners with MS to plug
into MOM.
> that's nice and all, but not every shop out there is completely MS based.
> 
> Yes Dell has partnered with Altiris, but HP/Compaq has had that 
> partnership for over 7 years.
> 
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:48 PM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: HP vs Dell servers
> 
> 
> Sorry for the off topic question. We are currently an all HP shop. The 
> accountants in management now want us to justify why we don't switch 
> to Dell servers. I have looked around the web including Gartner but 
> can't find any good Dell vs HP comparison/benchmark testing. Does 
> anyone have any good material that discusses why HP over Dell servers or
vise versa.
> Thanks
> Nathan
> 
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