Read the thread and see this blog post that Harlan did on the topic. I don't think it's as cut and dried as this. The idea is that the webserver in this instance would have no connection to your domain.

http://windowsir.blogspot.com/2005/07/av-software-on-web-servers-revisited.html

We want to do it because it's cheap and it's there. But in reality it is a bandaid and is reactive.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

if you set up a server for a select job, lock it down.... only serve up
static pages.. why 'does' it need to be covered by A/V was the topic

Maybe because if your server can "serve" anything, it can be "served" in
return. Where I come from, we call it the "scratch my back, I scratch your
back" factor :)

With the prevalence of network-burrowing, SMB-crawling worms and trojans, the
fact that you are serving static files is no protection at all.


Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
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Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Susan Bradley, CPA aka
Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Wed 10/5/2005 10:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment



I came <<this close>> to ripping out Trend in my office due to the BSOD,
false positives and the infamous Friday incident.  They are on probation
right now.

The ones bantered around in our A/V wars discussions:

Symantec [not yellow box but corp]
Sophos
CA

I have a fellow SBSer in AU who LOVES Nod32.

Pick one... they are in reality ALL reactionary.

Real geeks don't use A/V anyway.  [you should have seen the thread on
whether to stick a/v on a web server on the focus on ms listserve... if
you set up a server for a select job, lock it down.... only serve up
static pages.. why 'does' it need to be covered by A/V was the topic]



Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

I've only been on the list a short time, but I must have missed the
mandatory Trend Micro brainwashing. :-)
So far from what I have noticed there seems to be a set answer to all AV
questions.
Question: I'm curious about the capabilities of NOD32.
Answers (en mass): You should use Trend Micro.
Question: Is anyone using Symantec?
Answer (again en mass): You should buy Trend Micro.

Not that there is anything wrong with Trend Micro's product, it's great
in my opinion, but these responses don't seem to be very helpful with
regard to the questions being asked.

My apologies to the list "gods" if TM is the list sponsor. :-)
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:55 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment

Look into a product called Office Scan, by a company called Trend Micro.
I have been using this product happily since 1998.  It saved me from the
"I love you" bug and a few rather nasty ones since.
"I want my two dollars!"


And Joe!  Petitioning Webster's to include Joe-isms as an actual word.




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ahmed Al Awah
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:35 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment

Since we're on topic..is anyone using Symantec AntiVirus 10 corp edition
for A/V protection in a domain environment?

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 4, 2005 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment


My 1 cent.

I should go back to lurking...but... when choosing your a/v solution
there's something to check on... some of the a/v vendors have
historically  needed admin rights to update or have had vulnerabilities
themselves.

Might be something to investigate and consider when chosing an a/v
...especially on a DC.

In my own historical issues with Trend, the OfficeProtect dat file
upgrade to XP sp2 wasn't properly 'vetted" and flatlined my workstations

and last I heard cost Trend $8 mil in lost sales.  They've also had a
security vulnerability patched somewhat recently.

Epo's had their issues as well....

http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/21839

ISS X-Force Database: epolicy-msde-obtain-password(12787): ePolicy
Orchestrator could allow an attacker to obtain MSDE SA password:
http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/12787

ISS X-Force Database: epolicy-execute-commands(14166): ePolicy
Orchestrator command execution: http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/14166



Al Garrett wrote:



My 2 cents...
EpO has worked outstanding for us.
Does inventory reports, finds "rogues", demonstrates to pointy-haired
bosses how many infections are avoided and how dangerous it is "out
there."
Combined with CommTouch Anti-Spam solution.

  -----Original Message-----
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:36 AM
  *To:* [email protected]
  *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain
enviroment

  Just to add a little to what Phil says:
When I last used ePO I found that possibly the most useful feature
  was the reporting aspect. This allows you (amongst others) to
  assess which viruses were found in the environment and therefore
  what action if any needs to be taken to prevent further infection.
Most organisations don't have any idea how many infections they
  suffer from or how regularly the infections occur. A tool such as
  ePO can help in this area quite significantly. [it's also a handy
  management tool which helps justify the ongoing AV costs :) ]
neil


        *___________________________*
        *Neil Ruston*
        Global Technology Infrastructure
        Nomura International plc



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  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Phil
Renouf


  *Sent:* 04 October 2005 16:10
  *To:* [email protected]
  *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain
enviroment

  Take a look at this article, it should give you the information
  you need to configure Antivirus on your DC's:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/822158 I don't have any experience running NOD32 on anything :) As for clients, most environments I have been in use a product
  similar to McAfee's EPO to centrally manage all the AV agents on
  the desktop to make sure they are configured to the corporate
  standard and that they have up to date scan engines and DAT files.
Phil

On 10/4/05, *Boris Demirov* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

      Hello everybody,
      I got some questions about the anti-virus protection of a
      domain controller
      and the domain environment:

      In my opinion the best AV program for the moment is NOD32 - I
      am using it
      successfully on many workstations, but I am not quite sure how
      it will act on
      a DC. What kind of protection do you use on your DCs and have
      somebody got a
      closer look on the NOD32 installed on a DC?
      And something else to ask: what kind of AV protect your
      workstations in
      domain, do you use a single copy of a normal AV or some
      enterprise edition?

      All advises on the topic of antivirus protection in domain
      controller and the
      stations in the domain are welcome.
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