Why would you want to have them several years earlier available?
- a period of time would be required for testing and deployment.
I don't see this feature (although major) anything different then the
'native mode' switch you have in AD and Exchange.
- I disagree. Joe suggested that a newer client would be needed to
support the new mode. This is fundamentally different to previous modes.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
Sent: 10 October 2005 18:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] BlackComb Super Forest Functional Mode
Why would you want to have them several years earlier available? I
don't see this feature (although major) anything different then the
'native mode' switch you have in AD and Exchange.
Once you have upgraded everything to BlackComb you could make the
switch. Might even help moving people to the new OS quicker. :)
Martin Tuip
MVP Exchange
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:45:03 +0100
2 immediate comments:
- Blackcomb clients would need to be available several years before
the blackcomb server.
- Impact on non-Windows clients would need to be assessed. [SAMBA,
nix, Mac etc]
neil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: 10 October 2005 15:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] BlackComb Super Forest Functional Mode
To move this in a slightly different direction. How would people feel
about a BlackComb Super Forest Functional Mode where not only are DCs
impacted but every machine touching the DCs are affected. I.E. MS
allows multiple domains on a single DC but not for any pre-BlackComb
clients.
I.E. Complete break with legacy capability?
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing something like that but how do others
feel about it. Once in this mode, no going back. Legacy clients
pre-Blackcomb have no clue how to use the domains, etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
While I generally agree this would be great, I have to ask about eDir
and
it's authentication abilities. IIRC, multiple domains via LDAP only
work
just fine. It's called ADAM in its latest incarnation. But for the
authentication[1] and other apps that support/work with AD to provide
identity services (Kerb, DNS, GPOs, etc) might not be a good fit for a
multi-instance/single-server deployment. LDAP sure. The other apps, I'm
not so sure.
I'm curious, Charlie and Neil. What services do these SMB's offer that
they need multiple instances of DC's? I realize that a best practice is
to have multiple servers that can provide some failure tolerant
behaviors, but I'm wondering what type of work a SMB does that requires
multiple full blown AD domain instances and therefore multiple servers
etc. Can you expand that?
[1] LDAP is not an authentication protocol; Kerberos is though.
-ajm
CCBW
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:52:25 +0100
Maybe you should read about eDIR/NDS... :) Novell did this back in
'93.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]
Sent: 06 October 2005 01:51
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
I'd be surprised if we see this in my lifetime, or at least before I
retire.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie
Kaiser
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
What I want is to be able to run multiple domains on one OS
installation and segment the directories from each other. That way I
don't need to run multiple licenses of the OS, nor do I need hardware
that can power 4 VMs.
I already run VMs using VMWare in my test lab; it works but I'd prefer
to be able to run AD as a service and have it be smart enough to be
able to segment itself without needing a separate OS...
**********************
Charlie Kaiser
W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**********************
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
You can. It's called Microsoft Virtual Server.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie
Kaiser
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
I'd also like to see the ability to run DCs for multiple domains on
the same server. SMBs with limited resources balk at having to buy
additional server hardware for redundancy on multiple domains,
especially when the AD load on the DCs is minimal. This feature
sounds
like an offshoot of your list below.
If you can run AD as a service, it might not be that hard to allow
multiple domains similar to multiple websites/DBs on one server...
I remember discussing this with Stuart Kwan at DEC a couple of
years
ago. I hope it makes it into the mix...
**********************
Charlie Kaiser
W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**********************
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 4:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
Vista is the client OS. I don't believe they have named Longhorn
Server yet.I am voting for something like Windows Server 5.4.0 or
something like that. I realize that the marketing group would
have
something to say about it but I figure the best thing from
them is if
they pronounced their thoughts from the bottom of Lake
Washington.
People don't install servers because they have cool names.
The biggest non-NDA pieces that I have heard announced in
conferences
or seen on the web already is the Read Only DC to limit security
exposure for WAN deployments, restartable AD that can be
stopped/started as necessary, DA/Admin separation so that
you can have
an Admin on a DC that "can't" achieve Domain-wide DA level
rights, and
DCs running on Server Foundation or now its called Server
Core which
is a GUI-challenged Windows Server.
I can also say that there are a myriad of GUI updates for the
Admin tools though I can't state specifics. BJ Whalen who was
involved with
the GPMC project has been brought in to work on admin
experience and
anyone who has worked with GPOs with and without GPMC know that
he
really helped out.
All in all, there is some very cool stuff and MS has really been
listening to the community on what they want and need. I know
that
this list is watched for ideas and such and has been the source
of
DCRs internally. So if you have ideas, spout them here,
they will most
certainly be heard. They may not make Longhorn as it is
getting a bit
late to add major changes but your ideas could make it into a
later rev.
joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven
Wood
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory wish list
Hi,
With Windows Vista on it's way what's on people's wish list
as far as
Active Directory is concerned? Also are there any big
enhancements
due?
Thanks
Steven
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