Hi Freddy, Thanks for the feedback! I hope your mass patching goes well. It's a lot easier to notice this kind of stuff when you're doing "one-sies" where you can keep track of a server's connectivity during a reboot with a repeating ping. Be aware of the issues brought forth by MS05-051 (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=909444). I will be interested in your experiences. Thanks.
Mike Thommes -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONO Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC Patched another one of my production DC yesterday via windows update instead of updateexpert and - same issues with the dell server (strangely). Had to do shutdown /r /f via rcmd to get it back online. However the other domain controller with updateexpert is rebooting fine.. Will be doing mass patching soon, hopefully this isnt going to be reoccuring :( Thank you and have a splendid day! Kind Regards, Freddy Hartono Group Support Engineer InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9740 - temp -----Original Message----- From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC Hi Steven/Freddy/Douglas, This time the server is a Compaq, running with an Intel(R) PRO/1000 XF Server Adapter, no DRAC-type cards, RAID-controller is builtin. Some Googling did bring up some hits regarding Exchange and I wonder what kind of communication breakdown happens between a GC that wants to shutdown and an Exchange client (ie, Outlook) that is currently using this GC for GAL information. Maybe our AD/Exchange experts can throw some light on this. Mike Thommes -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Presley, Steven Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC Well you are definitely not alone. Something like this just happened to me while patching my Exchange clusters (only happened to 1 out of 18, so its pretty rare). After patching and telling the passive node to reboot it was completely inaccessible even after 15 minutes (normally it does not take this long to reboot). I could not ping or TS into the box. iLO was my life saver though. Connected with iLO and no hung services, nothing funny in the event log...just was not network accessible (even on the private network with its partner node). Had to reboot it via iLO (using the standard start\shutdown procedure..no cold boot required) and it eventually went down and came back up happy. I hope there is not some gremlin in the recent round of patches that is going to stick its head out when the clock strikes midnight. Best regards, Steven -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC Hi Susan, Thanks for the response. No UPS issues. Checked the services remotely and didn't find anything unusual. The DC did finally reboot on its own shortly after I sent out my first message - about 2 hours after the original patching and message saying it wanted to reboot and I clicked OK. The event logs showed nothing of any consequence, just a big (2 hour) gap in the system event log entries (between the entry saying it initiated shutdown and the entry saying the system was coming back up). The security log showed no gaps at all. Am I the only one that sees this kind of behavior on W2K3/SP1 servers? I normally don't use the "/console" switch when I TS in (eg, mstsc.exe /console). I wonder if that could speed the process up. Mike Thommes ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 3:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] rebooting a patched, but stubborn DC APC UPS's and you don't have the latest ver on there? HP with a UPS? Can you get into services and see if something is 'stopping'? Got any ILO ability there [or suitable other remote techniques]? Thommes, Michael M. wrote: >So I have remotely (TS connection) applied the latest Windows patches >to one of my DCs. Patches went on fine. Said it needed to reboot. I >clicked "Restart". And two hours later, it still has not rebooted, but >it did terminate the TS session. I have tried to "kick it" via a >"shutdown /f /r" command from another DC. Still no luck. Issue same >command remotely with the big Kahuna account, and it says a shutdown is >in progress. It appears to still be serving up clients, e.g., no >discernable ill effects. I have seen this periodically in the past >with other servers. Anyone have any comments/thoughts are this >irritating, weekend <sigh> activity? 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