In SBSland for our little Sharepoint services, the rule we have followed
is [and there are some who argue that DotNetNuke stuff should follow
this rule as well], you get into that AD structure such that you are
setting up usernames and passwords [you authenticate against AD] you
need a CAL.
Our SQL license for WSS is such that if we allow anon access to
Sharepoint, we do not need a WSS or SQL external connector [whatever the
external license is for SQL -- I think you can do it with a processor
license but I don't keep track of the SQL nuances in licensing].
If you can't host it in a legal [and let's face it cheap] way on your
own box, the way we do it is recommend external outsourcers... like...
for example the Microsoft site of www.mssmallbiz.com is an externally
hosted Sharepoint that allows for authentication [aka passwords]
I was once in a presentation at a CPA tech conference and the guy
presenting was basically advocating 'oh it doesn't matter, Microsoft
doesn't care' on licensing Sharepoint Portal Server....needless to say
the chair I was sitting in probably had fingernail marks in the bottom
of it as I whiteknuckled that presentation.
Tim Vander Kooi wrote:
You are correct, and in this case anonymous access refers to anyone
not being authenticated by your servers. So if JB truly has an
extranet where the people using it are outside of their control
(regardless of whether their names and numbers are known) an EC is
required. Running an extranet without it is not valid. If JB was to
talk with MS licensing they might make an exception if the use can be
proved, but without that in writing the site is not legal. I stand by
my original statement, CALs for intranet (users authenticating to your
servers), EC for extranet (users not authenticating to your servers).
It may not be the cheapest or easiest way to go, but it is the correct
way to do it.
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Desmond
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:06 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Are MS Sharepoint CAL's good for
multiple portals?
*My interpretation is that you need an EC for anonymous availability
and cals for authenticated users – one SPS cal per authenticated user
enterprise wide is I think how it works. The best thing to do would be
to call your MS licensing person and ask them.*
* *
**Thanks,***
**Brian Desmond***
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**c - 312.731.3132**
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *J B
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 6:46 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Are MS Sharepoint CAL's good for
multiple portals?
Right, but the extranet isn't publicly available. It's only available
to a select few clients. We'd rather purchase individual CAL's for the
few extranet users at ~$71 each rather than $30K for an unlimited
number. The licensing didn't stipulate that the individual CAL's could
not be used for external users. The External Connector License option
seemed to be geared toward a public sharepoint portal where you don't
know how many users might be connecting to it, or would have enough
connecting that would make purchasing individual CAL's unrealistic.
http://www.microsoft.com/office/sharepoint/howtobuy/default.mspx
Regardless, I should clarify. Suppose we have 20 employees, a license
for Sharepoint and 30 CAL's. We run an extranet portal for sharepoint,
which those employees access, as well as say, 5 clients. Without
buying more CAL's, can we run an intranet portal for our employees
using that Sharepoint server?
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Tim Vander Kooi <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:27 PM
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Are MS Sharepoint CAL's good for
multiple portals?
For your described situation a CAL would not cover both portals.
Then again, if you are using it for an Extranet with CALs you are
incorrectly licensed as is. An Extranet setup would require an
External Connector license, as the people connecting to it are not
employees of your company. Using SharePoint Portal Server for an
Intranet would require either user or device CALs, just like
Windows Server does.
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *J B
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:14 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [ActiveDir] OT: Are MS Sharepoint CAL's good for
multiple portals?
I tried this question on the Sharepoint Newsgroup with no luck on
responses. I'd like to know if MS Sharepoint CAL's will cover
multiple portals on sharepoint. We are thinking of using
sharepoint for our company intranet (we already use it for an
extranet) and want to make sure we are covered if we go that
route. Does anyone know?
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