Guys,

I'm sorry.  I'm just not following this.  Please answer these questions if
possible;

[1]  Nathaniel replicated the root domain to a new DC.  Yet the DC in
question held (at least) the SM and IM roles and probably all others as he
could not add objects as Aric B pointed out.  So ... where are the roles now
and how did they get back to this DC when this is a new DC replicating from
a source with no roles?
[2]  "Since this is the ROOT DC, is my forest going to die or corrupt
slowly?"  What would be the answer to this question assuming a time
differential of "X" passed before an overworked Sys Admin noticed the
failure?
[3]  How can Nathaniel be sure the System State was corrupted as opposed to
some other root cause?

Thanks in advance.  These kinds of subject lines are always scary and I'm
just trying to feel comfortable with the outcome.

RH
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bahta Nathaniel
V Contractor NASIC/SCNA
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:33 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Crashed Root DC HELP!


Hey all,

Thanks for all of your suggestions.  I ended up just doing a rebuild and
replicate during the night.  The statement about the RID master is probably
correct, although I cannot remember since it was in 2001.  I guess the
lesson learned here is that Hardware Troubleshooting done by the hardware
guys needs to be in synch with the concerns of the Sys Admins.  It took 14
hours to rebuild everything and restore everything.  I tried the method of
building a vanilla server, and then restoring the system state, but with
corrupted system state data, the latter method of rebuilding and replicating
is the easiest way to go.


Thank you all for your help,
Nathaniel Bahta
General Dynamics Network Systems

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Simon-Weidner
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Crashed Root DC HELP!

Hello Nathaniel,

What about the last known good bootoption (might work if you experience the
bsod before logon)?
Any other possibilities like save boot?
If one of these work you can try to find the failing device, and get rid of
the driver / whatever it needs to get it working again.
What about checking the hardware, e.g. SCSI-controller?

As others stated - is this your only forest root dc?

If you are able to restore and you are certain that the hardware is OK you
could try to restore, and then run a repair installation of windows over it.
If that doesn't help try a restore of the systemstate on different hardware.

If you have other forest root DCs than you can go ahead and seize the FSMOs,
but I'd try above steps first.

After you recovered make sure that you have more than one DC per domain.

Ulf

|-----Original Message-----
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta
|Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA
|Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:50 AM
|To: [email protected]
|Subject: [ActiveDir] Crashed Root DC HELP!
|
|Hey all,
|
|My root DC which held the roles Schema master and Infrastructure master
|showed me the BSOD via inacessible boot device.  I reinstalled the OS,
|restored the system state from DSRM, and it BSOD'D again.  I have a
|corrupt system state backup most likely.  Since this is the ROOT DC, is
|my forest going to die or corrupt slowly?  I have had this happen
|before many moons ago at another company, and I lost the ability to add
|new objects to the domain.  Does anybody know of a document covering
|just the ROOT DC restoration best practices or anything pertaining to
|the ROOT DC in that manner? Or does anyone have any lessons learned or
|suggestions for this dilemma.
|
|
|Dude where is your forest,
|Nathaniel Bahta
|General Dynamics Network Systems
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