Being blonde every now and then comes with technology.
<I still would annoying argue though that if the little pop up on the
drive said 'yo you drive space is getting low' that it's still my
responsibility as an admin on the box to not get it that tight. I've
accidentally set up Tripwire on a server to be monitoring too many
things and man... the number of log files, moving parts, things that
change... it's pretty amazing and I'm just a fan in giving computers
just a nice healthy dose of breathing room...even in those Enterprise
spaces. I think some of those CEO's can cut down on the perks a bit and
move the budget around.>
Rick Kingslan wrote:
All -
I've been informed by more than a few folks on this list that I am, for the
most part, completely and utterly wrong on this topic.
I apologize for any and all misinformation that I have conveyed, and will
refrain from posting on topics that I don't have complete and total
knowledge of the full circumstances surrounding the issue.
Rick [msft]
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on
NTFS volumes
Ken, I agree completely.
What I find very interesting in reading this KB is that it appears that the
problem did NOT exist pre-Windows Server 2003 SP1, and that a series of very
specific conditions need to be met. The third seems to be the element that
makes this more unlikely to occur - "The scenario involves approximately
1000 simultaneous delete, create, or extend operations on files".
What I find most interesting about this KB, and kudos to our stress team -
is it seems that we discovered this internally and that no scale of customer
impact seems to have occurred. (I don't know this for fact to be true - I
just suspect it to be so because some of the Lists that I monitor internally
haven't notified us of a large scale impact.)
Rick [msft]
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on
NTFS volumes
Frankly my expectation from a file system that's marked as being robust and
enterprise ready is that you should lose nothing if the drive is "almost
full", and the file system should shut down gracefully if the drive is full,
especially in normal situations.
Sysadmins should not have to worry that they'll lose data to corruption if
the drive is "almost full" in the normal course of events. If you're doing
something like the extreme use cases noted in the KB article, then that's
possibly a different situation, but in that type of situation you're
probably monitoring your disks with an eagle eye anyway. Additionally,
Microsoft is correct to warn that a potential issue does exist.
Cheers
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2005 3:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on
NTFS volumes
Is it me or is that a dumb KB?
"A volume is full or almost full."
Yeah data will start getting screwed up when you have that situation.
In SBSland we lose our CAL licenses and other such fun things on a too tight
drive.
Almeida Pinto, Jorge de wrote:
FYI
Potential file corruption problem on NTFS volumes during extensive
stress
tests in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;909360
Cheers,
Jorge
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