I've deployed SATA for storage of large files in Apple XRaid units in a Raid 5+1 config, and so far so good. Ask me in 3 years if I'm still just as happy ;-) but it was the only way to give the user what they wanted inside the budget we had.
One advantage of the XRaid is that it's fitted out from the get go to use SATA disks and the only reason you'd ever have to do anything to it is to replace a drive that you already know has gone bad. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Al Mulnick Sent: Mon 07/11/2005 17:34 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions <silly no-hair-color alert> SATA == Desktop drives. They weren't originally concepted to be enterprise class storage. I see them as being back-engineered to be used this way, but most of what I've seen has been to deploy them as a JBOD in situations where you can absorb the continuous loss of hardware and not impact performance and availability. Typically in pools of disk and hsm solutions (what is it that hsm is called now? ILM? :) If you plan to deploy DAS solutions (internal or external), SATA is not likely the way to go right now. You may want to wait a bit longer if the data is important. For large pools of inexpensive disks, SATA might be worthwhile to investigate if you have a large loading bay, a good support agreement, and close access to the highway. -ajm >From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions >Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:13:19 -0800 > ><Stupid blonde alert> > >I personally have SATA experience in the tower/desktop world but none in >the rack units. Are the physical connections any stronger in the rack >world? > >I like SCSI and IDE not only for their proven track record [server and >desktop respectively] but because the dang cables don't get knocked off >each time I reach into the case. Those cable connections on the back of >the SATA drives are a little worrying. I've accidentally bumped the >connection off my workstation at home twice while adding the Happauge card >and what not. > >In SBSland early on we had issues with them getting loaded up, if they are >underpowered, we're seeing a bit of bottlenecks, and as one of the SBS >support gang said out of Mothership Los Colinas, if your vendor won't >guarantee that equipment for 3 years, do you really want to put that data >on that device? > >So far the SATAs that we have running around in SBSland servers are okay, >but I'll report back in another 2 years and let you know. > >I can't speak for the Dell rack stuff, but the Dell tower stuff...lemme >just say I'm glad Brian steered me towards HP. > > > >Rob MOIR wrote: >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick >>>Sent: 07 November 2005 15:13 >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions >>> >> >> >>>Bottom line, I would guess that two HP 360's (SCSI; I haven't been made >>>comfortable with SATA reliability yet) or 140's with 1GB of memory each >>>would be more than needed based on those parameters. >> >>I'm glad to hear someone else say this. SATA can work but you need to >>look closely at what you're buying and what the manufacturer recommends. >>If the manufacturer doesn't trust their own products for the sort of >>24*7 hammering you often get in a server then why bet against them? Who >>are we to assume we know a product better than the people who designed >>and built it? >> >> >>>If you virtualize anything on top of that, some other considerations >>>would be needed of course. (or Dell or IBM equivalent of course). >>> >> >>I'd still personally be uncomfortable with virtualising all my DCs, even >>onto different physical virtual server hosts, I just don't believe in >>adding extra layers of complexity to fundamental network services if I >>can help it. >> >> > >-- >Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? >http://www.threatcode.com > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
