I recommended this to a company once, actually it was a large company with a
lot of users who should have been deleted and I recommended a whole server.
Move all mailboxes of users who were going away to it and then
disconnect/delete the mailbox. It gets away from the 9548 issue as well as
the issue of crap, we have to jump off this mailbox server or this store
really quick but we can't move the deleted mailboxes until they are
reconnected to a user. It also can help with making the process for
programmatic reconnects easier since you can target the reconnect script on
one machine. 



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automating NoMas

Hmmm...  Maybe there ought to a mailbox store just for terminated users.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automating NoMas

Something like this might be of interest.  
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/DROpsGuide/a209
faf9-91a1-46d7-8a6d-538ce3fba85d.mspx


The best way would be to disassociate the mailbox from the account and
maintain the mailbox for as long as the account retention requires (keep
them matched).  That would require you to keep track of where a user's
mailstore is located of course.

Note, this approach doesn't scale well.  At all.  That's why the above
mentioned script exists in the first place.  Most people want to keep the
user and the mailbox objects tied together until both are removed (if
removed at all).  Or, they tend to have a separate group that does AD
administration but has nothing to do with the mailbox provisioning which
also easily results in this type of situation.

I agree with Joe that the ADUC with Exchange integrated tools should handle
this more gracefully, but it's never that simple. ;-)

-ajm



>From: "Harding, Devon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automating NoMas
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:25:19 -0500
>
>Ok with that said, what would be the correct way or tools to disable a 
>mail enabled account in Active Directory?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
>Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:49 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automating NoMas
>
>Let me restate this just a little.
>
>The issue are due to Exchange Dev having an incomplete understanding of 
>how people do things in the enterprise and assuming that the only time 
>a disabled account could have a mailbox is because it is a resource 
>mailbox so instead of having an attribute for it they assume and then 
>after assuming run into all sorts of issues with their assumption.
>
> >From our side, it means that we have to adjust how we deprovision
>accounts
>to properly populate the directory so Exchange doesn't get its panties 
>in a bunch. And yes, enough of these will get your Exchange server's 
>panties in a bunch. Lots of folks (primarily from MS) like to say these 
>are meaningless and can't hurt anything but I have seen multiple cases 
>where they caused store hangs and queues. I actually got an MS person 
>to admin they were a huge issue about 2-3 years ago but couldn't get 
>the person to give me an email stating that. I understood completely.
>
>The interesting thing is that you would at least expect ADUC with the 
>Exchange extensions to properly disable these accounts but nope, we 
>have to handle it manually. But that is ok, we really shouldn't be 
>using ADUC to manage users in larger orgs anyway. No business rules, no 
>decent logging, too many people with too many permissions: you want to 
>use provisioning tools, either self written or purchased.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
>Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:59 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automating NoMas
>
>Correct your deprovisioning process. Those issues are due to 
>incorrectly setting values on mailbox enabled users. Basically bad data 
>is going in the directory and then you are manually swinging back and
correcting it.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
>Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:18 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [ActiveDir] Automating NoMas
>
>How can I prevent the Event ID error 9548(MSExchangeIS) from happening? 
>I normally use NoMas to fix em, but I want to prevent them from happening.
>
>Would it be possible to create a script that runs like every morning 
>and perform exactly what NoMas does for every child domain I have?
>
>
>Devon Harding
>Windows Systems Engineer
>Southern Wine & Spirits - BSG
>954-602-2469
>
>
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