The directions on technet are pretty good. I understand if you are willing to wait a month, the third edition of that book will be out and the royalties go towards the one oar'ed rowboat Robbie promised joe a couple months ago.
Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Restore twice in Disaster Recovery? Hi Ed and Umer, I hope you do not mind if I butt in. It may just be easier to have him look at the online doc's on how to do such a procedure at: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Opera tions/b3d615b9-2bc9-4a4f-89cb-7697f94d527d.mspx Also there are several good books on the subject, one such book is Active Directory, 2nd Edition by Robbie Allen, Alistair G. Lowe-Norris by O'Reilly . It's worth the investment. Good luck in your restore! Jose Medeiros MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT www.ntea.net www.sfntug.org www.tvnug.org ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restore twice in Disaster Recovery? > Those are two different things, but you should be able to restore both in > one job. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Umer Y. > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restore twice in Disaster Recovery? > > Ah. I apologize. > > So, there should not be a need to do restore twice? > > > ... you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.. > > - Joni Mitchell > > > From: "Almeida Pinto, Jorge de" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restore twice in Disaster Recovery? > Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:59:03 +0100 > > I did not say "System State" and "Windows Directory" > > I said: "System State" and "System Disk / Boot Volume" (the latter is the > volume that CONTAINS the Windows directory) > > Jorge > > ________________________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Umer Y. > Sent: Sun 11/13/2005 4:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restore twice in Disaster Recovery? > > > > Thanks a bunch Joge. > > I am doing W2K3 restore. I didn't know about the bit about SYSVOL restore, > but I assumed it would be backed up with System State. I am going to try > to > do System State AND the Windows Directory today, and see how that goes, as > doing just system state hasn't gone well so far. > > Also, one thing that I noticed is that, when doing restore using ntbackup, > when I select the file -> System state. The five items show up in the > right > pane with their correct modified date, but Active Directory shows up > without > a date, hence blank. Am I correct to assume that it is because the host > machine is not a DC, that is why no presence of AD modified date while > restoring? > > > > > ... you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.. > > - Joni Mitchell > > > From: "Almeida Pinto, Jorge de" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restore twice in Disaster Recovery? > Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:51:10 +0100 > > Hi, > > You have not told us if you are using W2K or W2K3 AD... There is a tiny > difference between the two... > When doing a bare metal restore I always advise to restore a backup of the > System Disk (in MS terms it is called the boot volume, and for both it > means > the volume with the WIndows/Winnt directory) AND the System State... > In W2K3 restoring the system state also rebuilds the SYSVOL structure, no > matter the location of it... When backing up the system state on a w2k DC, > you should also backup the SYSVOL structure with it. Why? > > The SYSVOL structure is like: > SYSVOL <------S > DOMAIN <----- A > STAGING <----- B > DOMAIN <----- B > STAGING AREAS <----- B > <DOMAIN NAME> <----- B > SYSVOL <----- B > <DOMAIN NAME> <----- B > > In W2K3 when restoring the system state the structure mentioned above will > be restored correctly. > In W2K when restorin the system state the structure mentioned above will > NOT > be restored correctly! In fact it will only restore "A". It will not > restore > "B". > So in W2K3 it suffices to select the system state to also restore the > SYSVOL > structure In W2K to restore the SYSVOL structure I advise to select at > backup the System State AND the SYSVOL structure starting at "S" > So if you are using the default AD/SYSVOL paths and if you restore the > system disk and the system state everything will be OK as the sysvol > structure is backupped with the system disk. > If you have AD/SYSVOL on other volumes, for W2K, I advise to backup at > least > the System Disk, the System State and additionally the SYSVOL structure > starting at "S". This is especially important when doing a bare metal > restore. > IMHO, for a DC you should always at least backup the system disk and the > system state, and if it is a w2k DC also backup the FULL SYSVOL structure. > > Remember, if you are restoring the first DC in a certain domain you need > to > restore AD non-auth. and SYSVOL auth. (for the latter in other words as > PRIMARY) > > Hope this helps you! > > Cheers, > Jorge > > ________________________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Umer Y. > Sent: Sun 11/13/2005 2:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ActiveDir] Restore twice in Disaster Recovery? > > > > Hello All! > > I have researched this question quite a bit, but have not found a solid > answer as to why or how this would be done. > > I am doing a disaster recovery test on VMs, to eliminate the part of > 'dissimilar hardware' or to simulate 'Identical hardware' in real life > scenario. But I am running into some trouble while doing this, and hope > that > some of you can help me out here. > > Here is what I have: > > A single DC that holds all FSMO roles. > I am using ntbackup to take only System State backup of the good DC. <all > paths default> > > Here is what I do to restore: > > Got a freshly installed 2003 standalone server. > Hooked it into a hub to get network connectivity. > Give it the same ip as my good DC > In normal mode, while logged in as local admin, ran ntbackup, and restored > the file created from orginial DC with defaults. <To original location, > create junctions> and restarted. > In normal mode, it gives an error 0xc000018e, and says to restart in DSRM. > Upon rebooting in DSRM, DC asks to activate windows, and after passing > that, > when I ran ntdsutil, it does not pass file integrity. > Upon closer inspection, in Windows\NTDS, I have only ntds.dit and one log > file, when originally I am supposed to have more than that just two files. > > -- > > Now I can't boot up into the normal mode, and I tried to do a restore > second > time while being in DSRM, but that didn't help either. > > I am thinking to blow away this copy and reinstall again and do ntbackup > again, but should I do the restore twice before rebooting? > > I read in the list archives that while restoring, do restore to original > location once and second time to an alternate location. What is that > about? > > > Also, would doing a back up of System State AND the whole C Drive help? > > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > > > > ... you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.. > > - Joni Mitchell > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > > > This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended > recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential > information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, > disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an > intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any > attachment and all copies and inform the sender. 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