I did some testing and here is what I found.

1) If you actually give the user or group READ access in ADUC (User and
Computers, not DNS)

 under domainname/System/MicrosoftDNS. This give you access to the DNS
MMC on the server

2) Then at the ZONE(s) level, you have to give the user or group READ
access and DENY = (WRITE, Create All Child Objects and Delete All Child
Objects). It gets some rights from Authenticated users as William
mentioned. I did not want these folks to be able to create 10,000
records on our DNS servers.

Any other way, the user or group ends up having the ability to create
dns resource records and delete them. This way, I can truly give some
folks READ access to the DNS zones and it does not interfere with
dynamic updates which works under system. 

We are 2003 DCs (two 2000 DCs left) in native mode. We do not have SP1
on the DCs just yet. Your mileage may vary!

Thank you everyone. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 3:38 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Question


On the 2003 DC, you could use the Effective Permissions tab (Security ->
Advanced -> Effective Permissions) to verify the permissions assigned to
the test user.


I was able to get read-only for the user by setting Read at the server
level and again at the zone level. I had to remove 'Everyone' and
'Authenticated Users' where applicable.

It sounds as if the user may have more rights than expected.



William

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Johnny
Sent: 08 December 2005 16:34
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Question


2K in native mode, all but two of the DCs are running 2003 (NOT SP1 yet)


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:28 AM
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I think there are differences between functional levels.

What OS / mode are you running at?

I can say for certain, on my test rig (2k in Native mode) I have set
read-only access to specific zones.

I have not had much luck yet in assigning further permissions such as
adding records.



William


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Johnny
Sent: 08 December 2005 16:05
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Question


This is a tough one. I followed your link William,
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/S
erverHelp/73b2314f-6acf-422a-85bc-c1d04d1d8e00.mspx

Gave a test user Read access to a specific AD integrated zone. To be
able to connect the DNS MMC, I still had to give the user Read access to
the server object or the UI would get access denied. So, if you give the
user read access to the server object, even if you specify "this object
only" they can create and delete records with the DNS MMC even if you
specified read only to the AD intergraded zone.


Thanks

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:55 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Question


Hi Johnny,

You can delegate security of the DNS Zone to allow read-only access.

See
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/S
erverHelp/73b2314f-6acf-422a-85bc-c1d04d1d8e00.mspx

The user can run the DNS management snap-in on their local system and
connect to the remote DNS server.




William


-----Original Message-----
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Johnny
Sent: 07 December 2005 21:56
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Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS Question


As I am getting ready to migrate a number of zones from a QIP DNS server
to a Microsoft DNS server, I have a concern about giving support folks
access to the DNS MMC. Some folks just need to be able to use the MMC to
troubleshoot, so I thought I would give them "Read Only" access to DNS.
I see dhcp and wins users (view only) but I do not see the same thing
for DNS.

I created a test user in the domain, I tried to start the DNS mmc and it
told me that access was denied. I then went to the DNS server object and
gave the user list and read access to the objects. To my surprise the
test userid was able to add or delete DNS records in the AD DNS zone. It
probably should not be a surprise since the zone is AD integrated and
set to secure updates. I take it this means that as long as a user is a
member of the domain, they CAN create and delete resource records in
DNS. I take it all I did was expose the UI by giving the user read
access to the objects.

How do you mitigate this?

Thanks

Johnny Figueroa
Enterprise Network Consultant/Integrator Network Services Banner Health
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