Prevention is better than a cure.  Do as the previous poster suggests
and apply the appropriate NTFS permissions so that users can create and
write files/folders but not delete, move or rename???



-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 Dec 2005 19:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] I need an auditing and control solution [and
yesI'll even fork moneyout for this]


And stupid question...so I'm auditing for 'Delete' and 'Delete 
Subfolders and Files'.... would auditing 'Create Folders/Write Data' and

'Create Folders/Append Data' give me the needed logs for 'okay this 
person is the one that dragged the file and slid it'.

Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
> I need them to be able to create new folders on a regular basis under
> two main folders.  [new clients you know]
>
> Litigation clients ------- name of each partner [yes they are
> management so one has to propose reasonable solutions] ---- client 
> subfolders
>
> Due to our collaborative needs they need to get into each other
> partner folders and not just their own and always be able to create 
> new folders.
>
>
> Za Vue wrote:
>> Depends on how many folders you are talking about. NTFS can be
>> applied to folders. My users can only open the folders, can't move 
>> folders, can't delete folders, can't rename folders, can't create 
>> folders, etc. They can modify files inside their prospective folders.
>>
>> -Z.V..
>>
>>
>> Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>> Problem -- the 'fatal finger syndrome'
>>>
>>> I have a collaborative firm.  There are certain folders that
>>> everyone in the office [well with very few exceptions anyway] need 
>>> to get into.
>>> Due to mouse's and dexterity.... over the years individuals have 
>>> been the root cause of my "fatal finger syndrome" a condition where 
>>> one person clicks on a folder and accidentally slides it under a 
>>> neighbor.
>>> These days we don't freak, we just look around and find the slid 
>>> folders and move them back.
>>>
>>> So the other day, under a certain folder, client folders beginning
>>> with the letters co through zz end up ...not slid...not moved, but 
>>> gone, deleted.  Now between the shadow file copy that the system 
>>> does, the robocopy batch file [yes I actually wrote a small bat 
>>> file, Joe would be so proud] to pull of copies of that one drive to 
>>> a spare harddrive, and nightly backups, I have enough paths to 
>>> ensure that I've got multiple ways to get to that data so that it 
>>> was minor to push the data back.... but it's obvious to me I need 
>>> way better control over the fatal finger syndrome.
>>>
>>> I'm stuck in the position of ...that I can't [as far as all that
>>> I"ve ever been able to find] unable to set permissions in such a way

>>> to allow for creating folders, but not sliding folders nor deleting 
>>> them.
>>>
>>> I'm going to review adjusting 'object access' for those series of
>>> folders and look into a 'dump to storage' of an auditing software 
>>> since I know this will increase my already noisy security log files.
>>>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/S
erverHelp/50fdb7bc-7dae-4dcd-8591-382aeff2ea79.mspx 
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm testing out whacking off/disabling cut and paste and seeing if
>>> that freaks anyone out in the office [I believe the disabling of cut

>>> and paste in IE will also affect the Windows explorer?]
>>>
>>> Stupid questions.......
>>>
>>> 1.  Any other ideas or suggestions from the AD gurus to minimize
>>> this 'fatal finger syndrome' that I'm fighting
>>> 2. To better track the issue?  Flag it?  Control it?  Stop it?  
>>> Besides hitting people upside the head?
>>>
>>> I've got the recovery process/procedures so that I can restore data,
>>> but I'd like it either stopped or identified as it happens.
>>>
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