In trying to validate Jorge's issue (http://www.akomolafe.com/JustSaying/tabid/87/EntryID/13/Default.aspx), I accidentally discovered a silly one in Virtual Server. See http://www.akomolafe.com/JustSaying/tabid/87/EntryID/14/Default.aspx Maybe it's not time to switch after all :) Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tony Murray Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 8:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: Failing to create a trust Hi Jorge Just finished testing with Virtual PC 2004 SP1. No issues found. The trust was established without having to match username and passwords. You've probably seen Deji's email saying he also had no issue with Virtual Server. I'm not ready to abandon VMWare quite yet, but it does give pause for thought. Tony ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 4:34 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: Failing to create a trust Hi Tony, While creating my test environment that I will use at DEC, I also tested the following: ADCORP.LAN -> DC01 (W2K3SP1) -> DC02 (W2K3) promoting to DC and use DC01 (W2K3SP1) as source -> NO ISSUES! BRANCH.ADCORP.LAN -> DC11 (W2K3SP1) promoting to DC and use DC01 (W2K3SP1) as source -> ISSUES FOUND! (changing pwd solved issue) -> DC12 (W2K3) promoting to DC and use DC11 (W2K3SP1) as source -> NO ISSUES! SUBSIDIARY.ADCORP.LAN -> DC21 (W2K3SP1) promoting to DC and use DC02 (W2K3) as source -> ISSUES FOUND! (changing pwd solved issue) -> DC22 (W2K3SP1) promoting to DC and use DC21 (W2K3SP1) as source -> ISSUES FOUND! (changing pwd solved issue) It looks like if the DC to be promoted = w2k3SP1 then the issues mentioned occur Cheers, jorge ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 21:38 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: Failing to create a trust Hi Tony, R2 does not change core binaries so there should be no change there. I can save you time when it comes to the R2 test as I found it first in R2, then tried SP1. Both with the same issues I have not tried pre-SP1 myself I'm not sure, but I think it does not occur in pre-SP1 because I had never seen it before until working with R2 and SP1. Jorge ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tony Murray Sent: Sun 12/18/2005 9:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: Failing to create a trust Hi Jorge Ok, I'm back at work and the workaround using the same username and password combination does the trick. I found one other interesting glitch. Here's the sequence. 1. Cross-forest trust setup fails with RPC connection failure. 2. Change ForestA administrator name and password to same as ForestB 3. Set up one side of the trust in ForestA. All ok. 4. Attempt to set up ForestB side of trust. Fails with RPC connection failure. 5. Remove trust in ForestA. 6. Go back to ForestB and set up one side of the trust. All ok. 7. Go back to ForestA and set up the other side of the trust. All ok. Weird. If I have time, I'll do the same thing with Windows 2003 (no SP1) and with Windows 2003 R2. I'll also see if the behaviour is different with Virtual PC. Tony ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 2:05 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: Failing to create a trust Just before going to a party yesterday, I was playing with 2 VMs. Each Vm was a DC in its own forest/doman and I wanted to create a trust between the two. How difficult is that? Well, not that difficult, until you get the error... ;-(( default tests: nslookup, mappings, etc and everything OK There is a big difference here. With the DCPROMO thing I goes wrong after entering the credentials to dcpromo the DC With the TRUST thing I goes wrong as soon as you enter target domain The fun part is (quote from the DCPROMO story I wrote): <QUOTE> To test permissions and credentials I created a mapping (to the ADMIN$ share) from the stand alone server to the forest root DC and used username administrator and password CORP. result = OK To test permissions and credentials I started LDP on the stand alone server and connected to the forest root DC and used username administrator and password CORP. result = OK. I was able to anything in the directory. To test permissions and credentials and joined the stand alone server and made it a member server of the forest root domain using the username administrator and password CORP. result = OK. </QUOTE> Someone posted on my blog that this problem did not exist in pre-SP1 w2k3. So if someone can test that, please do so and post your findings here. Thanks! I'm sure the password thing will work. There is another solution and that is to connect to \\SERVER\IPC$ <file:///\\SERVER\IPC$> using the target credentials. What I have seen is that it sometimes worked and sometimes it did not. Remember, that in a multiple DC environment the DC might choose another DC then you did! Cheers, Jorge ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tony Murray Sent: Sun 12/18/2005 3:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: Failing to create a trust Hi Jorge Weird that you should post this. I had exactly the same problem on Friday when trying to set up a cross forest trust using two vitual machines in VMWare ESX. I also performed the NetMon trace and saw the same SMB STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE error. I'll have to try the password thing when I get back to the office to see if that works in my environment. Tony -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 2:06 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] FYI: Failing to create a trust Hi, Remember the DCPROMO thing on Vmware I experienced a while ago? (http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/14/60.aspx) I found another similar issue, but this time it occured when creating a trust (external or forest) between two forests. The solution is still the same When interested you can read more at: http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/12/18/297.aspx Cheers, Jorge This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. 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