Al makes a good point… Enterprise Management is not typically an open-the-box, fire-and-forget solution.  In fact I haven’t seen a single product out there that comes close – at least not one that I haven’t been terribly disappointed with.  WUG (What’s Up Gold) used to be pretty close (talking 6 years ago).  But once you get the concepts, and figure out what you want to monitor, it gets much easier.  If you had all Cisco Catalyst 4000 routers and 7000 routers and HP servers with all the same config, and all running W2K3R2 with the same config (brands are for example), it’d be much simpler.  But I doubt anyone has a homogenous system, so we get 400 EM products all trying to be all things to all people, because as soon as one of those vendors drops support for something, the support phones start ringing asking for it back.  Hmmm.  I think that’s the story of Windows as well, come to think of it… (“what do you mean, no 8.3 filename support?!” J)

 

Rich

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools

 

Hmm.. Plenty of good ideas, but I have to admit if you find MOM difficult and don't want to spend the time, most of the solutions talked about will have similar issues.  I admit MOM interface is terrible for what you sound like you want to do.  Then again, can it be simpler (the answer's yes, but that's another discussion.)

 

The benefit of MOM is that it comes out of the box configured with plenty of thresholds already configured from the vendor that made your directory service.  If you go looking for another product, ensure that the product you look at does the same.  If they don't you'll spend oodles of time configuring and tweaking the product. In fact, I've seen implementations that finish tweaking just in time for the next upgrade cycle ;)

 

-ajm

 

On 1/5/06, Al Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OpenNMS – Replaced a Nagios box.

See the website www.opennms.org

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Freddy HARTONO [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Way OT: DC & Server monitoring tools

 

Hi all

Just looking for some advice on server monitoring tools, and for DC monitoring as well as exchange monitoring

I'm currently using Argent but found it much of a hassle to setup and the predefined rules out of the box is very standard and is much more expensive than others as well.

Tried installing MOM but the gui isnt easy (havent have time to play around much)...

Any suggestions or experience on good monitoring products - preferred agentless..

 

Thank you and have a splendid day!

Kind Regards,

Freddy Hartono
Group Support Engineer
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65) 6330-9785

 


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