Glad that helps :) When I said in my previous post "...Not sure if that works but i am in w2k3 FFL mode...", it was rather "...Not sure if the switch / /showobjmeta works in w2k forest because it works in w2k3...".
So you confirm that it also works in w2k forest. Yann ________________________________ De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] de la part de Tom Kern Date: mer. 11/01/2006 17:40 À: [email protected] Objet : Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue That worked. Thank you very much!! On 1/11/06, TIROA YANN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not sure if that works but i am in w2k3 FFL mode. *BUT* when i tried with the repadmin /showmeta switch, it shows me the same error as you. So you would try to install the adminpak.msi for w2k3 in your windows XP box, because the repadmin /showobjmeta is only available in the w2k3 adminpak.msi . Then try again the process. Try it and let me know if that works. Yann ________________________________ De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Tom Kern Envoyé : mercredi 11 janvier 2006 16:00 À : [email protected] Objet : Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue Yann, does this command work against a win2k forest? When i run it against any DC in my forest, i get a . C:\repadmin /showmeta opnyc10.mydomain.com <http://opnyc10.mydomain.com/> "CN=YIPJ\ 0ADEL:f9eeaf3f-07f6-43d2-9a00-22923bef2fcb,CN=Deleted Objects,DC=mydomain,DC=com" DsBindWithCred to CN=YIPJ\0ADEL:f9eeaf3f-07f6-43d2-9a00-22923bef2fcb,CN=Deleted Objects,DC=mydomain,DC=com failed with status 1722 (0x6ba): The RPC server is unavailable. Thanks On 1/11/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian, I apologize for being so grammatically and syntactically cavalier with my posts to this list. If a dangling participle, split infinitive,or misspelled word has offended you, you have my sincerest regret and I promise to work on being a bit more diligent on that matter. If it helps any, by way of explanation, I usually write most of my posts from home while chasing after 2 kids. I can never seem to find the time to post from work or a more quiet place. But I'm sure that's more information than you or the list has needed to know.... By "everyone", I mean I have enabled "Audit account management" policy and I'm auditing user object creation/deletion for the "everyone" well know security principle. Hope that helps On 1/11/06, TIROA YANN <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi Tom, i used the following: if the user yann is deleted from AD: 1) adfind -default -showdel -f isdeleted=TRUE -gc > del.txt to list all deleted users in del.txt (the -gc query the GCs, i found it much faster to query gcs than dcs). 2) search for your user yann and pickup it's DN "CN=yann\0ADEL:2a299250-27ea-4a05-bdf7-5ca9558ff733,CN=Deleted Objects,DC=univ-lyon1,DC=fr". 3) type repadmin /showobjmeta MYDC "CN=dac\0ADEL:2a299250-27ea-4a05-bdf7-5ca9558ff733,CN=Deleted Objects,DC=univ-lyon1,DC=fr" | find /i "isdeleted" to localize the DC in which the deletion occured. Ex: here is the result of the command: 17730966 MYSITE\MYDC 17730966 2005-10-27 10:37:11 1 isDeleted You can see that the deletion occured at 10:37:11 AM the 2005-10-27 on the DC "MYDC". 4) you can then use psloglist \\MYDC security -i 630 -a 10/27/05 which shows u all deleted accounts occured before the 10/27/05, or connect to MYDC to search in the event security log. If you can not find your user at the time, it may be that an other domain admin has disabled the policy account applied by default, so you may see with your peers to confirm this. hope it helps ________________________________ De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] De la part de Tom Kern Envoyé : mercredi 11 janvier 2006 01:24 À : [email protected] Objet : Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue that wont work. You have to restore(reanimate) the object from the Deleted Objects container back into AD to run repadmin /showmeta GUID..... otherwise it won't work. i could be wrong.. Besides this won't help me figure out who deleted it or why the audit wasn't logged. p.s.- i have the Forestry book and think its great and well worth the hefty price. On 1/10/06, Mark Parris < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: If I recall, he reset the permissions on the ou/container which holds the deleted objects then you could query it with out reanimating anything. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:03:11 To:[email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue I thought to do that you first have to reanimate the object from the Deleted Objects container before you can search on the GUID. The deletion occured in a Win2k forest. I think what you are talking about you can only do in a WIn2k3 DFL forest. Besides, that will only tell me the DC and time the isDeleted attrib was set. It wont tell me the user or process that deleted it. thats what i really need and as my DC's seem to mysteriously stopped logging event id 630 or 565, i'm screwed. thanks alot On 1/10/06, Mark Parris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use repadmin to check the objects metadata, can usually find the DC where the deletion occured and also who did it. The Active Directory forestry book by john craddock is an excellent resource for this type of AD audit. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kern < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:53:18 To:[email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue It logged the creation/deletion. My question is- i've always had this policy set and yet an account got deleted last nite and i can't find any record of it. the security logs have not been cleared and are set to stay for 7 days. still i know a user account ended up in the deleted objects container with a whenChanged date of 20060109202458. someone/thing must have deleted it and there is no entry in the event logs of any DC. what gives? Thanks On 1/10/06, Coleman, Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Create a user account, then delete it. Note which DC you're connected to for the delete, then check the security log on that DC. Look at all of the events around the time you deleted the account so that you'll know what is actually getting logged. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue Yes. Thanks. I just have 2 issues. 1. I don't understand why i get that error in ldp when i enter the oid control for deleted objects 2. Most importantly, i had audit account management enabled for sucess and failure on my domain controllers ou and auditing enabled for everyone for everything on the entire domain object, yet when i use evencombMT to scan for an event id 630 in the security log, i get nothing. this account was deleted last nite so something should show up with this auditing enabled, no? do i have to set some other security policy like audit directory service access as well? I figured account management should cover deleting a user object. Thanks On 1/10/06, Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've deleted the rest of the thread already, but did you not already say you found him in the deleted items using ADFIND -showdel? Or did I misread that and you're still looking for him? On 1/10/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm just using ADUC and searching by sAMAccountName. With LDP, i'm looking in Deleted Objects container but this company never deletes users accounts, just disables them indefinetly so all i see in that container are linkTrackOMTEntry objects. How can i see if the user was renamed? I got a call from help desk that this user couldn't log in and they couldn't find him in AD using ADUC which i confirmed. he's been witht the corp for 5 years and i was assured he always had an account. Thanks On 1/10/06, Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: how do you know he's missing exactly? I mean, are you sure the account wasn't changed for example? Maybe renamed somehow? When you search, how are you searching exactly? On 1/10/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I have this weird issue- A user object is missing from my win2k native mode domain. I know because this user has complained that he can't log in and i can't find the object anywhere in AD. I've checked the deleted objects container in AD with ldp and he is not in there as well. He's not in the Lost and Found container either. His exchange mailbox is oprhaned in ESM. Sometime last nite this user was deleted but i have no way of finding him. we don't have auditing turned on for that but i figured if an object was deleted it would definetely be in the deleted objects container. is there anyway to bypass that? where else can i look? Any help would be great because this is just plain bizzare. Thanks List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
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