Ah the infamous “changing the syntax
of a utility” issue. Who would do that?
:op
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006
6:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Strange
deleted object issue
That should work in any version of AD
since release, the metadata has been there. However note that that version of
the command didn't exist in earlier versions of repadmin, you instead used
repadmin /showmeta which has a different ordering of parameters. I don't recall
why that was done but I recall that there was some good reason for it even if
it was someone thought it was better/more consistent that way.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TIROA YANN
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006
6:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE : [ActiveDir]
Strange deleted object issue
When I said in my previous post "...Not sure if that works but i am in w2k3 FFL mode...",
it was rather "...Not sure if the switch / /showobjmeta works in w2k forest because it works in
w2k3...".
So you
confirm that it also works in w2k forest.
Yann
De:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] de la part de Tom Kern
Date: mer. 11/01/2006 17:40
À: [email protected]
Objet : Re: [ActiveDir] Strange
deleted object issue
On 1/11/06, TIROA
YANN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Not sure if that works but i am in w2k3 FFL mode. *BUT* when i tried
with the repadmin /showmeta switch, it shows me the same
error as you.
So you would try to install the adminpak.msi for w2k3
in your windows XP box, because the repadmin /showobjmeta is only
available in the w2k3 adminpak.msi . Then try again the process.
Try it and let me know if that works.
Yann
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
De la part de Tom Kern
Envoyé : mercredi 11 janvier
2006 16:00
Yann, does this command work against a win2k forest?
When i run it against any DC in my forest, i get a
.
C:\repadmin
/showmeta opnyc10.mydomain.com
"CN=YIPJ\
0ADEL:f9eeaf3f-07f6-43d2-9a00-22923bef2fcb,CN=Deleted
Objects,DC=mydomain,DC=com"
DsBindWithCred
to CN=YIPJ\0ADEL:f9eeaf3f-07f6-43d2-9a00-22923bef2fcb,CN=Deleted
Objects,DC=mydomain,DC=com failed with status 1722 (0x6ba):
The RPC server is unavailable.
Thanks
On 1/11/06, Tom Kern
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Brian, I apologize for being so grammatically and syntactically
cavalier with my posts to this list.
If a dangling participle, split infinitive,or misspelled word has
offended you, you have my sincerest regret and I promise to work on being a bit
more diligent on that matter.
If it helps any, by way of explanation, I usually write most of my
posts from home while chasing after 2 kids.
I can never seem to find the time to post from work or a more
quiet place.
But I'm sure that's more information than you or the list has needed to
know....
By "everyone", I mean I have enabled "Audit account
management" policy and I'm auditing user object creation/deletion for the
"everyone" well know security principle.
On 1/11/06, TIROA
YANN <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Hi Tom, i used the following:
if the user yann is deleted from AD:
1) adfind -default -showdel -f isdeleted=TRUE -gc >
del.txt to list all deleted users in del.txt (the -gc query the GCs, i
found it much faster to query gcs than dcs).
2) search for your user yann and pickup it's DN
"CN=yann\0ADEL:2a299250-27ea-4a05-bdf7-5ca9558ff733,CN=Deleted
Objects,DC=univ-lyon1,DC=fr".
3) type repadmin /showobjmeta MYDC
"CN=dac\0ADEL:2a299250-27ea-4a05-bdf7-5ca9558ff733,CN=Deleted
Objects,DC=univ-lyon1,DC=fr" | find /i "isdeleted" to
localize the DC in which the deletion occured.
Ex: here is the result of the command: 17730966
MYSITE\MYDC 17730966 2005-10-27 10:37:11 1 isDeleted
You can see that the deletion occured at 10:37:11 AM
the 2005-10-27 on the DC "MYDC".
4) you can then use psloglist \\MYDC security -i 630 -a
10/27/05 which shows u all deleted accounts occured before the 10/27/05,
or connect to MYDC to search in the event security log.
If you can not find your user at the time, it may
be that an other domain admin has disabled the policy account applied by
default, so you may see with your peers to confirm this.
hope it helps
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] De la
part de Tom Kern
Envoyé : mercredi 11 janvier
2006 01:24
À : [email protected]
Objet : Re: [ActiveDir]
Strange deleted object issue
You have to restore(reanimate) the object from the Deleted Objects
container back into AD to run repadmin /showmeta GUID..... otherwise it won't
work.
Besides this won't help me figure out who deleted it or why the audit
wasn't logged.
p.s.- i have the Forestry book and think its great and well worth the
hefty price.
On 1/10/06, Mark
Parris <
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
If I recall, he reset the permissions on the ou/container which holds
the deleted objects then you could query it with out reanimating anything.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:03:11
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue
I thought to do that you first have to reanimate the object from the Deleted
Objects container before you can search on the GUID.
The deletion occured in a Win2k forest. I think what you are talking about you
can only do in a WIn2k3 DFL forest.
Besides, that will only tell me the DC and time the isDeleted attrib was set.
It wont tell me the user or process that deleted it.
thats what i really need and as my DC's seem to mysteriously stopped logging
event id 630 or 565, i'm screwed.
thanks alot
On 1/10/06, Mark Parris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use repadmin to check
the objects metadata, can usually find the DC where the deletion occured and
also who did it.
The Active Directory forestry book by john craddock is an excellent resource
for this type of AD audit.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kern <
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:53:18
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue
It logged the creation/deletion.
My question is- i've always had this policy set and yet an account got deleted
last nite and i can't find any record of it.
the security logs have not been cleared and are set to stay for 7 days.
still i know a user account ended up in the deleted objects container with a
whenChanged date of 20060109202458.
someone/thing must have deleted it and there is no entry in the event logs of
any DC.
what gives?
Thanks
On 1/10/06, Coleman, Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Create a user account, then delete it. Note which DC you're connected to for
the delete, then check the security log on that DC. Look at all of the events
around the time you deleted the account so that you'll know what is actually
getting logged.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Strange deleted object issue
Yes.
Thanks.
I just have 2 issues.
1. I don't understand why i get that error in ldp when i enter the oid control
for deleted objects
2. Most importantly, i had audit account management enabled for sucess and
failure on my domain controllers ou and auditing enabled for everyone for
everything on the entire domain object, yet when i use evencombMT to scan for
an event id 630 in the security log, i get nothing.
this account was deleted last nite so something should show up with this
auditing enabled, no?
do i have to set some other security policy like audit directory service access
as well?
I figured account management should cover deleting a user object.
Thanks
On 1/10/06, Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I've deleted the rest of the thread already, but did you not already say you
found him in the deleted items using ADFIND -showdel?
Or did I misread that and you're still looking for him?
On 1/10/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
I'm just using ADUC and searching by sAMAccountName.
With LDP, i'm looking in Deleted Objects container but this company never
deletes users accounts, just disables them indefinetly so all i see in that
container are linkTrackOMTEntry objects.
How can i see if the user was renamed?
I got a call from help desk that this user couldn't log in and they couldn't
find him in AD using ADUC which i confirmed.
he's been witht the corp for 5 years and i was assured he always had an
account.
Thanks
On 1/10/06, Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
how do you know he's missing exactly? I mean, are you sure the
account wasn't changed for example? Maybe renamed somehow?
When you search, how are you searching exactly?
On 1/10/06, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
I have this weird issue-
A user object is missing from my win2k native mode domain.
I know because this user has complained that he can't log in and i can't find
the object anywhere in AD.
I've checked the deleted objects container in AD with ldp and he is not in
there as well.
He's not in the Lost and Found container either.
His exchange mailbox is oprhaned in ESM.
Sometime last nite this user was deleted but i have no way of finding
him. we don't have auditing turned on for that but i figured if an
object was deleted it would definetely be in the deleted objects container.
is there anyway to bypass that?
where else can i look?
Any help would be great because this is just plain bizzare.
Thanks
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