Problem is can you tracking software 'talk' to that router?

Change management to me is still a process where someone 'signs off' and approves..i.e. someone in "management".

Not to mention there's many places in AD that things change and it's not tracked "why" something did it or if it does track the who..it's buried in some security log file that you'd have to compare the security and app log files for same date and time stamp to trace it back as to who actually did the change.. I had a sevice change a user log in on my test box and I never did figure out who (aka me) or what (okay what beta did I install that horked it up) changed it. Thus if you had an automagically software that tracked every change...would it also track exactly who did it and for what reason they did it?

Think in terms of the annoying 2k3 shutdown nag box that wants you to put in why you are rebooting that box. The reason wouldn't necessarily be caught without a human typing in that box and saying why they are rebooting that system

If you want a 'monitoring' software have you seen Nagios?

Monitoring - Nagios: Home:
http://www.nagios.org/


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't SharePoint require a manual entry by
a live person to record information? Wouldn't the idea of a change
management software be to automate the process of recording the change
so that no change is "forgotten"?

Applications such as Microsoft Operation Manager are great at
automatically tracking changes made in AD and the up/down time of
servers
(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/events/mom/tnt1-112.mspx) It
also is great at spitting out the results in a report style format. This
makes our job of presenting the info to our bosses much easier since we
don't have to convert the raw data.

Although MOM is a great tool, I'm personally looking to find a more
holistic approach. Is there truly one piece of software that can track
it ALL automatically? Everything from changing a VLAN, creating a group
in AD, or modifying a router configuration needs to be tracked but I
have yet to see any software that can perform this huge task.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noah Eiger
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Change Tracking Database

Thanks all (esp. Susan). It will take me a little bit to look through
this.
One thought I had was to repurpose a web-based db from a customer
management system. Each physical (server, switch, etc.) or logical (AD,
DNS, DFS, etc) asset would equal a "customer" and the logs for the phone
conversations, letters mailed, etc would be the actions taken on the
asset.

-- nme

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:04 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Change Tracking Database
>
> Download details: Windows SharePoint Services Applications Template:
> Change Management:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=8481322A-88EA
> -
> 44CF-9DB2-63B43A03FEB2&displaylang=en
>
> Or that one.
>
> Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
>
> > Sharepoint.
> >
> > Download details: Windows SharePoint Services Applications Template:
> > HelpDesk Dashboard:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=82e86a1d-c8
> > 18-
> 496b-8ad4-818aaf1c2fed&DisplayLang=en
> >
> >
> >
> > Download details: Windows SharePoint Services Applications Template:
> > Project Team Management:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8c580176-09
> > b4-
> 4001-9c2b-2ad5b7ec2a12&DisplayLang=en
> >
> >
> >
> > Public folders are sooooo old fashioned ;-)
> >
> > Aimless Ramblings from a Blithering Lunatic . . . : WOW! It's
> > Christmas in August on the Microsoft Download Site . . .:
> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/cgross/archive/2005/08/03/61320.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > Dryden, Karen wrote:
> >
> >> We just send the notes for changes to a public folder that forwards

> >> to all of our admins. We keep the notes in the PF forever. We have
> >> a separate folder for problems.
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ----
> -
> >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Noah
> >> Eiger
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:54 AM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Change Tracking Database
> >>
> >> Thanks, Gil. I can appreciate that NetPro is not free ;-)
> >>
> >> I was looking more for something that simply allows admins to write

> >> notes about what they changed. This would then create a running log

> >> of what happened.
> >>
> >> -- nme
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ----
> -
> >>
> >> *From:* Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2006 8:18 PM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Change Tracking Database
> >>
> >> You've pretty much described ChangeAuditor from NetPro. Its not
> >> freeware though. See
> >> http://www.netpro.com/products/changeauditor/index.cfm.
> >>
> >> -gil
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ----
> -
> >>
> >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Noah
> >> Eiger
> >> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2006 8:05 PM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* [ActiveDir] OT: Change Tracking Database
> >>
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> I am looking for a database (preferably with a web interface) to
> >> track all changes made in the network/directory infrastructure.
> >> Change something in DNS? Log it. Make some registry changes on a
> >> server? Log it. Change a recipient policy in Exchange? Log it. You
> >> get the picture. Right now we are using a somewhat-clunky,
> >> homegrown, MySQL database. Anything off the shelf or
free/shareware?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> -- nme
> >>
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