Yep !
 
That was exactly i was thinking of.
Putting a dns integrated  AD in a test lab would be probably painfull for me to 
clean all dns records ;(
I heard that it was possible to put a DC in a lab and install dns, and u 
confirmed it.
 
Thanks,

Yann

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] de la part de Lee, Wook
Date: lun. 13/03/2006 20:34
À: [email protected]
Objet : RE: [ActiveDir] Migrating AD to a lab



I find that it's much better to add DNS afterward. Metadata clean up is not too 
bad these days and should get even better. DNS cleanup is a royal pain in the 
backside especially if you have a large number of sites. Scavenging can help if 
you have the time to let it kick in, but if you want to get up and running as 
fast as possible, it's much cleaner to create a fresh version of the relevant 
zones and let auto registration occur naturally.

 

Wook

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TIROA YANN
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE : [ActiveDir] Migrating AD to a lab

 

Hello Phil,

 

I'm interested about your method..

When u put this VM into test environnement, how do u deal with DNS ? Can dns be 
installed *after*  the introduction of the DC/GC VM ?

 

Thanks for clarificaition,

 

Yann

 

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] de la part de Phil Renouf
Date: sam. 11/03/2006 21:23
À: [email protected]
Objet : Re: [ActiveDir] Migrating AD to a lab

The way I like to deal with this (and I think it's been suggested by someone 
else here before) is to bring up a VM into production, promote it to be a DC/GC 
then turn it off. Make a copy of the VM and put that into the lab, then bring 
the original VM back online and DCPromo it back to a member server so that it 
cleans itself out of AD. 

 

Also, I like to reset all the passwords of all the accounts if possible; 
scripting this is a good way to do it. At the very least change the 
admin/service accounts.

 

Phil

 

On 3/11/06, Ulf B. Simon-Weidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

? 

Hello Peter,

 

it depends on what you intend to test in your lab. Since lab security is 
usually more relaxed than production security (e.g. external employees getting 
domain admin access to test scripts or whatever) I wouldn't want my 
user-accounts (and worse - service and admin accounts) in the lab with their 
real passwords. If you just want the structure you can use the scripts provided 
with GPMC, and export/import user data without passwords using csvde. I'd just 
put the stuff in the lab you need there, e.g. if you just want to test GPOs the 
OU-Structure and some test accounts would be sufficient, if you want to test 
scripting for modifying users or provisioning you might need some more data.

 

Pulling some backup / introducing another DC / pulling drives of a RAID-mirror 
are valid solutions if you need production data. I'd do a imaging-backup or 
pulling/replacing a drive if I have the same hardware. Also keep in mind that 
virtualisation is a valid solution, you can use P2V in VMWare or Virtual Server 
Migration Tool in VS. Virtualisation also provides you with the logical 
splitting of the production network to the test network, while still being able 
to access the test environment from any production machine. I've started to 
like to put my test-environment in the datacenter (well protected) and access 
it of my workplace. 

 

This is another important point: I've also found that I was lazily considering 
if I should go in the room with the test equipment when I knew I have to be 
back at my workplace soon or expected some important emails. Being able to 
access the test environment from the desk enables me more often to use the test 
environment when testing a script or something. If the test environemnt is 
physical I was sometimes putting a RDP-enabled workstation with two legs in 
between, so I was able to RDP to the workstation and then RDP into the test 
environment. And multimonitor at the primary desk also provides a great gain in 
productivity - e.g. RDP Fullscreen on the second monitor.

 

Just my 0,02EUR

 

Gruesse - Sincerely, 

Ulf B. Simon-Weidner 

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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson
        Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:57 PM

        
        To: [email protected]

        Subject: [ActiveDir] Migrating AD to a lab
        
         

Hi all 

I was wondering, after finally got management buy in to build a lab, what the 
easist way is to get my domain info migrated into the lab for the purposes of 
testing dev etc?

Do I simply Dcpromo a new box and then cut it off from the domain and NTDSUTIL 
it out or do I do  a state recoverey from my Tivoli backups? 

Anyone got any ideas/pointers etc. 

Thanks & greetings from a chill server room in Johannesburg South Africa. 

Peter Johnson 

 

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