Guido, thanks for the info. Yes you are correct we are not using our windows all (188) of them as file servers I'm an old fart, have a bad heart and I hate surprises so could tell me what surprises I have in store for me. (i.e. SIDhistory has some nice surprises here)
john -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Servers or Workstations yes, this approach would work fine. Important is to finish step 1+2 before you do 3+4. As your AD domain has trusts to both source domains and it doesn't look like you're leveraging windows file-servers, you could also do step 5 early on (would be different if you are leveraging a lot of Windows File Servers - SIDhistory has some nice surprises here). BTW, step 3+4 can be done at once (but I also preferr to keep them apart) /Guido -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2006 17:15 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Servers or Workstations Guido, thanks, for the feed back....here is the info about our domain. 2 nt4 domains, 1 an account and 1 a resource with a 2 way trust between them. No roaming profiles. Servers have shares on them for web development. Novell is our file server's. We do direct ip printing. Have 1 Citrix Server. Have migrated groups first then users with sid history using ADMT v3.0 and now am starting on workstation's/servers but I used my self as a test dummy and screwed up my workstation (this worked in our lab) by not having access to an Helpdesk application that uses a share and logging on to the AD domain before I had migrated my profile. So if I'm doing this correctly the scenario for this AD migration using ADMT v 3.0 should be: 1. Migrate Groups from both Domains with sid history. 2. Migrate Users with Sid history and fix group membership. 3. Migrate User Profiles using the Security Translation Wizard selecting to do only the profile/User rights and adding security references selecting the source domain workstations. 4. Migrate the workstation using the Computer Migration Wizard but leave the Users Profiles and User rights unchecked 5. Migrate Servers using the Security Translation Wizard and then the Computer Migration Wizard. john -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Servers or Workstations servers first? workstations first? first what? I assume you're talking about migrating your servers and workstations from an NT4 domain to an AD domain - correct? If so, the order strongly depends on various aspects, such as the status of your user and group migration and how you handle permissions on your servers. There's too much detail here to know, which doesn't make sense to add without knowing more about your environment. But more often than not it is more advisable to 1. migrate your users accounts and groups to AD 2. take care of the user profiles on the workstations and ensure that the users are actually using the AD account (often combined with the computer migration) 3. migrate the servers and any other workstations to AD Usually the order of workstation or servers is not important - this changes if you have a lot of trusts in your environment and need to ensure availability of specific trusted resources from other domains that have not been migrated yet. Suddenly the order can become important again. So maybe you want to enlighten us a little about your environment, such as trusts between your domains, usage of SidHistory for account/group migration, usage of local profiles/roaming profiles on workstations, terminal servers, tools you're using for the migration etc. /Guido -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2006 00:22 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Servers or Workstations Thanks Rob, thought so... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rutherford Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Servers or Workstations Hi John, I would 'generally' opt for servers first as you can then take advantage of the 2K, 2K3 goodies, i.e. AD straight away when you migrate the workstations. Rob Robert Rutherford QuoStar Solutions Limited The Enterprise Pavilion Fern Barrow Wallisdown Poole Dorset BH12 5HH T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.quostar.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky Sent: 20 June 2006 18:37 To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] Servers or Workstations Hey all, I thought I had our Ad Migration plan as we were going to do workstations first but I'm having second thoughts. I think we should do servers first then workstation's. Could I have your thoughts on this. 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