"...whichever party that may be."

On 6/22/06, Gil Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ethics? Thats the stuff the guys in the other party don't have.
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Exactly...

Congress: Ethics? What's that?


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Yea, it seemed an awful basic question for you joe. And, of course I fell
for it. Agreed though that software RAID is like Congress creating its own
ethics rules--just a bad idea all around.
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ROFL!

That was more of a case of purposely refusing to acknowledge software RAID
versus truly understanding what it is. I have had far more than my share of
times trying to rebuild software raid configs.

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Software RAID is where the OS (in this case) handles the striping of the
data rather than the hardware (usually the controller).


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o Software RAID? What's that?

o Yeah I am not a fan of mirrors. I like lots of spindles. But then I tend
to work with big busy directories with Exchange beating on it.  Being 64 bit
you don't have to worry _as much_ assuming you have enough RAM to cache your
entire DIT but you still have to load that baby in the first place so I
would still recommend RAID 0+1, 10, or 5 or if you don't care about fault
tolerance the fastest is RAID-0.

o I would say if you are going 64 bit, make sure you make it a priority to
get enough RAM to hold your entire DIT. That is the cool thing about getting
64 bit.



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There would be a little more to gain than that but often that's the reason.
joe might point out that a two mirror configuration is not his optimal
configuration. I'm pretty sure he'd also point out that compared with
software raid, that he'd take that option. :)

I can honestly say I'd agree with him on this one. Software mirroring for
this type of application is never a good idea.  The slower spindle speeds
likely won't be enough of an issue to matter in your configuration. Unless
you have a very large DIT <queue jokes here> or applications that pound the
snot out of the individual servers spindle speed won't be nearly as
important. Since it's 64 bit you're after, spend some money on the memory
and take advantage of the cache as much as you can.

Al


On 6/22/06, Noah Eiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would the partitions on the first configuration gain you (over just a
> single C:)? I thought the idea behind placing NTDS, etc on something
> _besides_ C: was to get the performance benefits of extra spindles (as in
> #2).
>
> -- nme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Lilianstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:24 PM
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>
> We have some budget money to replace domain controllers this year. Not
> all of them but probably half of them. We've pretty much decided on 64
> bit Dell PowerEdge servers. Most of the discussion is about disk
> configuration. Two schools of thought exist here.
>
> 1) 2x73GB 15K drives in RAID1. Carve up the volume at the OS level with
> 20GB or so for the OS and the remainder for NTDS, Sysvol, and system
> state backups
>
> 2) Two sets of 2x73 10K drives in RAID1. The first set is for the OS,
> the second is for NTDS, Sysvol, and system state backups.
>
> I've always liked physically separating the OS from the application
> data. Others here like carving up the volume at the OS.
>
> Any thoughts, opinions, suggestions?
>
>        tia, al
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