Okay that makes more sense :-)

Guest, Mike wrote:

Sorry, I don't think I made myself clear

The KEY was R2, the MEDIA was W2K3 SP1 EE (ie NOT R2)


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Sent: 28 July 2006 14:41
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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] R2 vs w2k3 SP1

Uh... afaik R2 always has 2 disks (or thinks it should)

On MSDN there's two disks for both Standard and Enterprise in the ISO downloads. Exactly what does this media look like?

Guest, Mike wrote:
As an interesting aside,

We noticed recently that using an R2 corporate license key on a 2K3 enterprise (integrated sp1) CD causes the media to request the 2^nd disk - even though there is no second disk in the media kit.. (blame the reseller, who supplied us with the incorrect key)

I've not had the opportunity (or enthusiasm) to test whether this is also the case with the standard edition

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
*Sent:* 27 July 2006 16:50
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] R2 vs w2k3 SP1

(1) I remember seing it somewhere (while writing this, I remembered the location which can be found in the link below! ;-)) ). INTEGRATING R2 onto a server does impact that server. It just adds options to the Add/Remove Programs list. Installing one of the new options should not impact the server or other components within the infrastructure. Just like before you would be adding a new option to the server (e.g. adding the DHCP server role to it). However, SOME of the R2 options REQUIRE a schema change (DFS-R, UnixIDm, distributing printer connections through GPOs....) and SOME of the R2 options REQUIRE the new .NET Framwork v2. For those two I say: test, test and test. As always implementing new technology requires testing, but just introducing an option, that option should not have that great of an impact.

(2) ok, done

(3) now I understand...

If you just want to R2 servers from a network source by using the current source a change is needed.

Remember...

CD1 from the R2 distribution set is W2K3 with SP1 slipstreamed, BUT that media will also trigger the INTEGRATION of CD2 from the R2 distribution set. The NORMAL W2K3 with SP1 slipstreamed will not trigger that integration and that must therfore be triggered manually.

From the R2 documentation placing the I386 dir (CD1) and the CMPNENTS dir (CD2) on the same network share should give you the possibility to install servers with the R2 binaries integrated (don't forget to use the R2 product key during the setup, otherwise during the integration you will need to enter the R2 key as well!!!). After that you still need to install the options manually or during install you need to specify what to install by using an answer file.

For additional info also see:


http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/d/4eda5dc2-2842-468e-834e-3756e42
21cdb/Windows%20Server%202003%20R2%20Overview%20Guide.doc
jorge


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   *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2006 17:12
   *To:* [email protected]
   *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] R2 vs w2k3 SP1


   when the R2 binaries are installed on the server the only thing
   that happens is that the R2 options are INTEGRATED (not
   installed). The options still need to be installed additionally.
   So yes, the only difference is the list in Add/Remove Programs.

   **[Neil Ruston] is that documented as being the only change? I can
   see new login bitmaps etc which indicate (IMO) that certain files
   on CD1 differ from the original w2k3 files.**

   There is a small bug....

   There will be a difference in tombstone lifetime depending on
   which server is used to create the forest. This is a bug within R2
   that introduces an incorrect (nothing dangerous) SCHEMA.INI

   If you use a SP1 server to create the forest the tombstone
   lifetime will be 180 days

   If you use a R2 server to create the forest the tombstone lifetime
   will be 60 days (<not set>), while 180 days is expected.

   **[Neil Ruston] yep, discussed this internally already :)**

   don't understand your 2nd Q

   **[Neil Ruston] let's say I have a build source share which houses
   the server build and has sp1 slipstreamed into w2k3. I now wish to
   build r2 servers only and so I'm asked to slipstream r2 into that
   build repository. Is this even a meaningful statement? I ask
   because of the above and the fact that I believe an r2 server may
   appear differently to a w2k3 sp1 server even if CD2 is *not*
   applied.**

   jorge


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       *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2006 15:56
       *To:* [email protected]
       *Subject:* [ActiveDir] R2 vs w2k3 SP1

       Question 1:
       Server 1 is built with R2 CD1. CD2 is not used at all.

       Server 2 is built with R2 CD1 and r2setup is executed from R2
       CD2 as well.

       Will these 2 servers be configured differently in any way,
       other than the additional hooks in 'add/remove programs'?

       Question 2:
       If I have a build created with sp1 slipstreamed, does the
       statement 'slipstream R2 into the build' make any sense? I
       believe it does not make sense but others disagree :)

       Thanks,
       neil

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