Hi Johnny,

You have to differentiate between speech recognition and voice print
verification..

Speech recognition (also known as speech-to-text) is hard to do well,
and in my experience falls apart when confronted with (simultaneously)
large vocabularies and speakers with various and different accents.
I don't mean that as flame bait -- I just haven't seen a very good
deployment that responds well to these two challenges at the same time.

That said, we do have at least one customer implementing self-service
password reset on a large scale (tens of thousands of users in a
financial institution) using speech recognition.  I'm not very familiar
with their situation, so I can't personally vouch for the effectiveness
of their system.  This customer did not source the IVR or voice
recognition technology from us -- just the password reset system, so I
can't even point you to the vendor offhand, but I could find out for you
if you like (contact me offline if so).

Voice print verification is different -- it doesn't attempt to "understand"
what the speaker is saying, just verify whether the person saying it is the
same as the person that provided an earlier sample of the same phrase,
using the same type of telephone device (i.e., 1 sample per phrase per
desk phone, cell phone, etc.).

It's fairly straightforward to tune a voice print verification engine
(and indeed any biometric) to yield essentially zero false-positive
errors.  This does have the side-effect of increasing the rate of
false-negative errors (i.e., when speaker A attempts to authenticate
himself, against a stored sample of speaker A, the system fails to
recognize him).  This is not a security problem - just a nuisance and a
cost problem, due to escalation.

Voice print verification works quite well in practice -- we source
an excellent engine to embed in our P-Synch password reset software
from Voice Vantage, and at least one of our customers has successfully
deployed a solution with technology they sourced from Nuance.  We have a
customer who has realized cost savings of about US$6 million/year using
this technology, so I think it's fair to call it "ready for prime time."

Obviously, you should limit any sort of self-service password reset
solution to non-privileged users - this has nothing to do with the voice
engine, and everything to do with stronger controls for more sensitive
users.  For example, ignoring the voice application for a moment, a
normal user who forgot his password might be authenticated with mother's
maiden name, date of birth, employee number, driver's license number,
etc.  On the other hand, an administrator might be required to use a
two-factor device (e.g., SecurID) or to speak to another administrator
and be personally recognized.

Good luck!

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Idan Shoham
Chief Technology Officer
M-Tech Information Technology, Inc.
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Figueroa, Johnny wrote:

There is talk about using a home grown speech recognition system to
reset a user's password. You would need to enroll, the system would
record your voice and if you ever wanted to reset your password, it
would ask you to repeat a word of its choice.

The system would use a service account with the ability to reset
passwords and turn on the option to force the user to reset the password
at logon.

I am just sending this out to get some feedback. I would have a
challenge trying to exclude certain groups from being able to do this,
like IT folks with elevated credentials. Unfortunately those IT folks
are in the same OU as the users that want this functionality.

Thoughts on any part of this?

Thanks


Johnny Figueroa
Supervisor Network Operations & Support
Network Services
Banner Health
Voice (602) 747-4195
Fax (602) 747-4406

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