to read on how the access token is build see: http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/f/3/8f36dfe4-47d0-4775-ad5a-5614384921aa/AccessTokenLimitation.doc authentication across domains depends if NTLM is used (external trusts) or kerberos is used (forest trusts and intra-forest transitive trusts) sIDHistory just adds SIDs to the access token, after that the process is the same jorge Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards, Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto Senior Infrastructure Consultant MVP Windows Server - Directory Services LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven) ( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777 ( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80 * E-mail : <see sender address>
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt Hargraves Sent: Mon 2006-09-25 19:38 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SID History. Unfortunately that's not even close to what I was having issues with Joe. I'm more concerned with how tokens are created and whether they will by default query the old resource domains that haven't been migrated into the AD environment. Theoretical situtation: I am a member of 50 groups in my user domain, I'm accessing something in my user domain. We have 150 trusted resource domains where I have 6 group memberships in each through SID history. Is the GC/DC going to query all trusted domains for my memberships through SID history? (resource domains are all NT4 domains) I'm assuming that it's not going to, because of how the authentication path works (resource server - user domain DC - user domain GC - resource server DC, resource server), but everything I've seen never really talks about SID History much. On 9/24/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would recommend poking through the MSDN security docs. It sounds like there is a break in understanding of how the SIDs are used in combination with the DACLS. Start here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/secauthz/security/how_dacls_control_access_to_an_object.asp but poke around that whole area. joe -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hargraves Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:59 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] SID History. Conceptual situation: User domain Resource domain (s) I bring all users into a single AD environment, bringing over SID History information. Now I start moving over file servers from the resource domain to the AD environment. One of the file servers has groups ACL'd from the resource domain. When the server goes to check for access rights, will it pull over *all* group memberships from the appropriate resource domain or simply pull over the single group membership and append that to the user's token? Mostly just looking at SID history impact between semi-active resource domains that are being decomissioned and current domains. Microsoft's site mostly seems to point to groups that are pointing to SID history objects that are within the AD environment, not cross-domain SID history impact. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
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