The alternate solution I previously mentioned to David and his cohorts in
crime was a distasteful but functional solution of writing their own service
or script to register the records based on that script/service querying the
DCs and getting their LDAPS capability at any given point and then being
aware that there will be some level of latency there.

  joe


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:24 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

The project that I'm working on makes heavy use of LDAPS.  However, at the 
moment, we favour the latter statement - the built DCs don't leave "staging"

until the certs are pulled.  They must be signed off, and that's one of the 
last items on the deployment check list.

We'll probably automate this check soon, but we're too busy with automating 
the buillds at the moment.

Personally, I like the idea of _ldaps SRV RRs.  Although I can appreciate 
there's a bit more to it from MSFTs point of view than simply getting 
NETLOGON to register them in DNS.


--Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability


> Hmm doesn't look like anyone else has figured this out or just doesn't
> deploy LDAPS or alternately makes sure every DC is capable of LDAPS.
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Loder
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:51 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability
>
> joe's absolutely right.  What's trying to be
> accomplished is to publish new LDAPS SRV records for a
> 300+ DC environment.  But I don't want to just blindly
> assume each DC properly enrolled with the CA (we had
> problems like that at the beginning), and I'd really
> like to avoid the overhead of touching each DC.
> Unfortunately, that's about the only viable method I
> see.
>
> We have a DCR in with MS to change the behavior so
> that the DCs automatically publish LDAPS if it's
> available.  But what we're hearing right now is that
> it's probably not in the pipeline until LH SP1.
>
> --- joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> LDAPS records aren't published by DCs, only LDAP
>> records. I can assure you
>> if it were that easy, David wouldn't have had an
>> issue. From what I have
>> seen, if a secure LDAP connection is required, the
>> internal routines from
>> MSFT simply locate a DC and go to the port. If LDAPS
>> isn't hot, the
>> connection is dropped with server down error.
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS
>> availability
>>
>> Couldn't you just query the DNS for the SRV record
>> advertising it...
>>
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>> Other than directly testing the 636 port on each DC,
>> can anyone suggest a method for an unprivledged
>> client
>> to discover whether or not LDAPS should be available
>> on a specific DC?
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