For a couple of updates a day, I'm wondering if you really *need* something
other than the GUI.  Might be worth it to have them use the GUI just for the
sake of complexity.

If cost is not an issue, evaluate the miceandmen products to see if it'll
give you a better interface although honestly dnscmd might be more than
enough for what you want to do at those rates.

Outside of troubleshooting I usually recommend specified times for updates.
For example, all updates are performed once in the morning and once in the
afternoon to prevent the constant churn of administrating pieces and parts,
especially on larger implementations.

Al



On 1/8/07, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 *Integrated. They tell me they make a couple updates a day to the zone.*

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*Thanks,*

*Brian Desmond*

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Al Mulnick
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*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Weird name but they get good press.  I haven't tried them myself, but I've
heard of them.



Most of the others out there tend to want to take over the DNS vs. provide
tools.  Personally, I'm a fan of setting it up well (design for success and
all that) and using cli to manage so I haven't really
researched after-market tools.



One thing that comes to mind: is this going to be integrated or
traditional zone with primary and secondary configurations?



How much maintenance is expected?



On 1/8/07, *Brian Desmond* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

*What a weird name – thanks for the link*

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*Thanks,*

*Brian Desmond*

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*Sent: *Monday, January 08, 2007 7:33 PM


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I like these guys: http://www.miceandmen.com/







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*Well there hasn't been some sort of ruling on whether the existing BIND
folks will get new tools or the AD team (which is very gui dependent) will
take it over.*

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*Are there any commercial tools you'd recommend I look at as far as
management goes?*

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*Thanks,*

*Brian Desmond*

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
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*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] DNS Comments



Backup a second - how do you plan to manage the zones?



I ask because this might be a good time to re-evaluate the metadata
concept of the zones.



In BIND you see that information because of the way you manage the zone.
In AD there is a different way to manage the zone information that doesn't
include that information.



If you decide to manage the zones the same way, then handle the comments
the same way.  If you decide to go GUI (often a shock for a real BIND techie
and often doesn't last long) then consider using a CMDB-type of mechanism to
record the metadata. You may also consider some alternate tools to manage
the DNS systems instead of the built in tools.  Performance is pretty rough
with the included anyway so it's not like you won't consider it later :)



This is a change in the way they do things.  It deserves a change in the
way they are used to doing things.



Al



On 1/5/07, *Brian Desmond* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Has anyone on this DL have experience with this problem?



I am working on potentially migrating numerous UNIX BIND zones to AD
Integrated DNS. The BIND zones have various comments in them which go with
the record. I believe the dnsNode class in AD supports a notes field or
similar but the GUI doesn't. How do people manage metadata about their DNS
zones?



Thanks,

Brian Desmond

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