Interesting points, Hunter.

Not to engage in a holy war or something, but would you mind mentioning what 
makes one of these Orange and the other Apple (the fruit)? No, don't mention 
64-bit Guest, thank you very much :)[1]


[1]<Grumbling> I wish MS will hurry up on this front already. </grumbling>

Sincerely, 
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From: Coleman, Hunter
Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 1:24 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


IMHO, ESX/VM Infrastructure and Virtual Server are like apples and oranges. 
Yes, they are both virtualization environments, but have vastly different 
capabilities. VM Infrastructure has a much broader and deeper feature set that 
does come with added cost and complexity.

Regardless, in the context of the original question I'd be concerned about the 
load Exchange is going to place on the host hardware. How many Exchange users 
are in the 8 domains, and how many of these would potentially be connecting to 
the alternate site? Are you going to have GC availability to support Exchange? 
What other resources at the hotsite might be looking for DC/GC services?

I would also be careful about having a configuration at my hotsite that is 
significantly different from my normal production environment. When things have 
melted down to the point of failing over to the hotsite, it's not a good time 
to be pulling out the manuals for your infrastructure because you don't work 
with it day in and day out.




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


ESX (VMWare) is good - and pricey. And very strict as to hardware specs. And 
complex to setup and administer. And, I could be wrong on this, NOT 
(MS)-supported for virtualizing DCs.

Virtual Server, on the other hand, is good, not pricey, less picky, more 
supported (I believe it's actually validated) for DCs virtualization. Plus, the 
liberal OS licensing scheme is very attractive to me.

Yes, I know, VMWare rules the market. Yes, I am biased.

  
Sincerely, 
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From: Salandra, Justin A.
Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 11:57 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


What would you recommend for the following situation.
 
We are thinking of having a hot site where Exchange will be replicated to a 
remote location.  Since Exchange will be remote over the Internet, we will need 
to have DC's for each domain available in that remote site.  (This would all be 
going across a VPN)
 
I was thinking about placing 8 DC's on a VMWare Infrastructure 3 server 
Enterprise edition.  These DC's would really only be used in the event of a 
disaster and people started connecting to Exchange up in the remote site.
 
Is VMWare Infrastructure 3 good?  What would you use?
 
Justin A. Salandra
MCSE Windows 2000 & 2003
Network and Technology Services Manager
Catholic Healthcare System
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