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james strachan commented on AMQ-688:
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A few comments on this issue...

#1 we already support the dropping of messages for non-durable topic 
subscribers...
http://incubator.apache.org/activemq/slow-consumer-handling.html

so that parts done right?

#2 we support eviction and reloading of messages for durable topic 
subscribers/durable messages and for durable queues

#3 the prefetch buffer act as the buffer of in RAM messages; we back fill these 
one at a time. We could have some pluggable strategy to provide more optimised 
back-filling - though its a tricky algorithm as thanks to selectors and 
different subscription rates - its hard to know what messages are required to 
be fetched.

#4 currently for performance, we tend to dispatch to non-durable topic 
subscriptions in a single thread to many producers to minimise context 
switching when using blocking IO. If we used a thread pool for this (async 
sending) or AIO or NIO then it would be easier to avoid the thread blocking on 
the send - right now blocking on the send there's no real way we can interupt 
it. So its clearly a performance hit tradeoff; fast versus fair.

#5 basically means to use spooling to disk right? 


> Avoid blocking producers
> ------------------------
>
>          Key: AMQ-688
>          URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-688
>      Project: ActiveMQ
>         Type: New Feature

>   Components: Broker
>     Versions: 4.0 RC2
>     Reporter: Christopher A. Larrieu
>     Assignee: Christopher A. Larrieu
>      Fix For: 4.1

>
> Original Estimate: 8 weeks
>         Remaining: 8 weeks
>
> Our main goal
> is to avoid stalled producers by addressing the main culprit: too many 
> undispatched messages
> in the broker's memory.  Our motivation is to handle significant --though 
> temporary-- imbalances
> between production and consumption rates.
> Reaching this goal entails specific broker modifications:
> 1. When memory gets tight, start dropping undispatched non-persistent 
> messages.  This is the
> first-cut attempt to maintain throughput of persistent messages.
> Unlike the approach documented at 
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/ACTIVEMQ/Slow+Consumer+Handling,
> the message dropping will only occur after the UsageManager reaches capacity. 
>  Non-persistent
> messages in dispatch lists will be dropped according to per-destination 
> policy.  Subscriptions
> can purge their own messages triggered via callback from the UsageManager.
> 2. Evict messages if memory remains tight, to be fetched from backing store 
> prior to dispatch.
> ActiveMQ already supports this for persistent messages on Topics with durable 
> subscriptions.
>  If a consumer's prefetch buffer is full, the splash-over messages remain as 
> IndirectMessageReference
> objects in the dispatch list, with the actual message body loaded from store 
> on demand.  I
> believe we can extend this approach for Queues as well.  
> 3. Improve the efficiency with which evicted messages are loaded back into 
> memory.  
> Currently, they are loaded one at a time as needed.  It would make sense to 
> batch-load message
> sets periodically.  This will require a significant shift in responsibilities 
> between objects,
> since an IndirectMessageReference doesn't know about other instances that can 
> be loaded in
> mass.
>  
> The goal will be to keep each subscription dispatch list stocked with a 
> decent number of messages
> in-memory to reasonably trade-off between it's consumer's performance and 
> resource usage in
> the broker.  As with everything else, we can implement this as a strategy 
> class with the first
> cut implementing a simple resource allocation strategy: divvy up available 
> memory amongst
> all subscriptions and keep that memory filled with messages for dispatch.  I 
> envision a worker
> task assuming responsibility for keeping these lists filled.
> 4. Even with the above modifications, we still can't entirely avoid blocked 
> producers, so
> we'd like to add client-configurable time-outs to provide a bound for the 
> time a producer
> can remain stalled.
> Maybe this should be a new attribute of ActiveMQConnection: 
> maxProducerFlowControlWait.  Calls
> to UsageManager.waitForSpace can take this quantity as an argument.  Failure 
> to reach sufficient
> space for the new message will throw an exception back up the stack and 
> across the wire, letting
> the producer know that the message was not delivered.
> 5. Finally, we need to extend disk support for Topics that have only 
> non-durable subscribers,
> otherwise their dispatch lists can fill up with persistent messages.  In 
> order to maintain
> compliance with JMS, it would be nice to provide some alternative to dropping 
> persistent messages.
> One possible first cut is to layer this on top of a DurableTopicSubscription 
> by creating an
> anonymous subscriber for every Topic that has only non-durable subscriptions. 
>  When all such
> subscriptions terminate, the broker can remove the anonymous subscriber.

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