ZC- better things to know than acronyms ;-)). Check out the dbi:proxy, i've never used it but it sounds like it would be an elegant solution. They have some very informative slides: http://dbi.symbolstone.org/doc/conferences/index.html The PERL::DBI stuff is GREAAAT!! They have a separate list too. I did my first hack (like, 4-5 lines of real code), saved me 100's of lines of code in Oracle PL/SQL. Answer: yes, all the flash content was done in Swish. It did everything I wanted to do. clp -----Original Message----- From: Zenon Chmielowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Does Perl do GUI? Hi, BTW => I feel stupid. It is easy to get lost with all those acronyms. I thought, this was another Perl thing. You did read my original message OK. No, I do not want to do Tk inside the browser; rather appart from browsers. I want to build a simple desk-top app. that has internet capabilities (connect to remote DB), one that I could use to maintain my sites remotly, without using Browse-technology. I have used JavaScript and Flash quite extensively. What exites me about Perl is the ability to do a lot in ONE language. So, yes, if your offer still stands, I would love to have a good example. Flash: I did a lot of it, but mostly the script (Flash4) side of it. I am not much of an artist. I am impressed with your work. Is all of this done in Swish? I thought it was much more limited in the scripting side of things. Zenon ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Pettit To: 'Zenon Chmielowski' Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: RE: Does Perl do GUI? BTW => by-the-way, another acronymical exercise of the the internet. Actually, I didn't read your request carefully, I don't think there is a way to run Tk within a browser that's mainstream ( i did see a plugin listed for tcl not PERL, never tried it). As browsers are essentially stateless, most go to JAVAscript to provide any real degree of interactivity. PERL's real power is string manipulation and modules for just about everything. I use it for data processing and extraction. The DBI module is awesome. It just saved me writing hundreds of lines of PL/SQL code for Oracle data extraction. For your web work I think I would stay with PHP and JAVA. Unfortunately, I'm not getting the chance to do much web work now >:( If you've not seen Swish, it's pretty interesting: www.swishzone.com it's essentially flash...but only $30 I've done some stuff with it www.neomethods.com my humble little portal demo see the Flash Gallery. The menu demo is interesting it's essentially a state-base interface done with Flash technology(swish). It even has some cute animation, just put your mouse over 'the show'. the PERL group is amazingly clever, someone will probably come up with something. chris -----Original Message----- From: Zenon Chmielowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Does Perl do GUI? As you might guess at this point I can use any help I can get. Thanks for the offer to share stuff with me. Yes, I'd love to get my hands on anything that might get me on the way. What is "BTW"? Thanks Zenon ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Pettit To: 'Zenon Chmielowski' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: RE: Does Perl do GUI? ZC -- Tk, just started doing it myself last week. oReilly book is very helpful. Tk structures ( . vs =>) for other languages like tcl are different because of the object type syntax. Make sure you understand the positioning of widgets (pack:place:grid) each has an advantage for what you would like to accomplish. It is loaded as a module, if you've not used PPM be sure to read the documentation first, it's very simple, if you read the docs. HTH, chris BTW i use my own relative coordinate approach which works really great with Tk, if you would like i'll send you an example, just drop me an email (will have to bring it in from work). Remember, as in PERL, it really applies to Tk, there's more than one way to do that. It's the paradox of the double edged sword. clp http://velocity.activestate.com/docs/ActivePerl/site/lib/Tk.html http://mysite.directlink.net/gbarr/PerlTk/tk-modlist.html -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zenon Chmielowski Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Does Perl do GUI? Hi, I am just staring Perl (coming from ASP,PHP and Java). The first few days can be quite overwhelming what you try to sort out so many issues. Web and CGI are just some aspects of Perl. I wonder if Perl could be used to develop a GUI-client for a Web application, for example, a Web maintenenace application seperated from a Browser. An application that would have GUI input forms (as in VB) that could be used for getting your web stats, doing data backups, sending messages, etc. Are there ant resources that would be good to get one stared? Thanks for any directions, Zenon _______________________________________________ ActivePerl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/listinfo/activeperl
