Jan, be sure that we all appreciate your work! Please do not take this mark of impatience as a reproach : PPM is so easy and conveignant to use that sometimes we forget that it needs people to work hard to make it work at first...
I really appreciate the effort that you and other AS engineers do to maintain a free product up-to-date, including services such as these mailling lists. Thanks, Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Dubois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeff Urlwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: Re: 5.8 and missing modules > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:21:28 -0500, "Jeff Urlwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi Jeff, > > >> Quoting Jeff Urlwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> > a) the lack of RESPONSE to my questions about PPM/repository > >> > historically (ref my post to this list and a few direct e-mails with > >> > *no* response. > >> > >> Jeff, it is worth mentioning, that I shared your experience > >> when contacting the official email addresses. However, due to > >> my mail from yesterday I am now in the process to get the > >> automatic build for DBD::mysql running with ActiveState employees. > > > >Yes and something around 9 months ago, I worked with AS (Jan) to get > >DBD::ODBC to pass/skip all tests if the environment settings. Jan gave me > >the e-mail of the person directly responsible and I e-mailed him a few > >months later. 5.6.1 *still* has a 2+ year old version of DBD::ODBC and 5.8 > >did get the newer version, but ppm is sadly broken. Hence, I've voted with > >my $$ to *not* contributed to ActiveState. > > I totally understand; I was pretty disappointed with how we were dealing > with PPM myself. I don't really want to go into it in detail, but the > problems are related to the fact that ActiveState had 75 employees in > summer 2001, when PPM3 and the CPAN_run robot was initially developed, but > only had 35 employees in January 2002. All work had to concentrate on > fulfilling obligations to our enterprise customers and generating new > revenue. Now we are back to about 80 people (but the company is a bit > less development-heavy than it used to be, so development resources are > still a bit scarce). > > I was complaining a lot about the state of PPM internally and have taken > "ownership" of PPM and the repositories 3 weeks ago. I'm working with two > other engineers on fixing the problems with the current system (this is > not the only project we are working on, but we do have management support > to spend significant time on this to get it all working properly). > > It will take a few more weeks, but I hope that eventually we'll be able to > build the repositories on a daily basis in a fully automated manner. We > will still need to add additional build support for some of the modules > that need non-CPAN prerequisites for their tests etc. > > So far, we have already moved the PPM repositories from the ActiveState > web site to a dedicated server, which will allow us much better control > over the updating process. We've also gone through all bugs in the PPM > bug database, reassigned owners and are starting to work on the ones we > feel most important. > > I've also created a new PPM mailing for discussion of anything PPM > related. Please send any discussion of PPM, the repositories, or module > requests there: > > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Browse/Threaded/ppm > > Please understand that we won't be able to look at enhancement requests, > or requests for individual modules until the whole system is working again > properly. > > Cheers, > -Jan > > _______________________________________________ > ActivePerl mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs _______________________________________________ ActivePerl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/mysubs
