Always there to help trust me I am warring with my desktop admins having higher 
level of access than the need in domain. We just took care of the helpdesk only 
because an audit helped that across the way.

too bad the politics are a little rough here to doa brute force you need to do 
your jobs etc etc approach.

Z

----- Original Message -----
From: Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Active Directory Admin Issues <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat May 03 09:16:31 2008
Subject: Re: Adding New Computer to Domain

We're attempting to resolve some "management" issues with the hd/dt group that 
is responsible for building out new workstations and deploying them.  We have 
delegated the ability and permissions to add computers to the domain and they 
can move them to the proper OU, however, despite repeated requests from us and 
our manager, this is not happening.  Our manager has given us the ok to apply a 
policy that locks down new computers shall we say drastically, (ie, they can 
set the new workstation on a users desk, but until they get it moved to the 
right OU, the user won't even be able to log on to it, it can't be remoted, 
won't answer pings etc etc, it's like it doesn't exist) that is what we're 
trying to accomplish here.  Yes, we've quoted the famous "there are rarely 
technological solutions for personnel issues" to the manager, he agrees but 
asked us, the -+
network admins for a way to force them to do their job.  This will accomplish 
that.  So we make our manager happy, and the procedures already in place are 
followed.

My lead was getting rather frustrated yesterday with this, and couldn't find 
the answer, he told me to find a way, even if I had to use ADSIEdit (he calls 
me the adsiedit queen), I did a bit of Googling, wasn't finding anything, 
obviously didn't have the right wording down, so I asked you guys and once 
again you've made me look like the genius.  So a big THANK YOU, when I left 
work yesterday he was already diving into that KB and probably has it ready to 
go by now.   There was even a slightly evil, maniacal laugh to go along with 
it.....from both of us.  What can I say, we like using AD to make people 
comply.  HE HE HE.


On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Fuller, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


        Sherry,

         

        While you cannot apply a GPO directly to the COMPUTERS default OU, 
remember, it is a nested OU, underneath the domain root.  Placing a computer 
based policy at the domain root will trickle to PCs inside COMPUTERS as well.  
I'm sure you're thinking it, you must be careful to properly secure the GPO 
placed at the root of the AD domain, as to not lock down the entire AD.  

         

        Do remember though, from a fresh build or image deployed box , a PC 
will likely need a reboot or three before it absorbs and applies the policy, 
nothing is instant about GPOs and XP boxes—which is usually pleanty of time to 
either use a batch process that moves the computer object, or redirect to 
another OU as suggested by Ed.  The problem that I don't like about changing 
the default ou---some software, somewhere, someday is going to expect COMPUTERS 
like it is now, plus, when you build your next server, guess where it'll go too?

         

        Overall, while not the most elegant of solutions, it's one that I fall 
back to everytime---running a script/batch as suggested by Kurt.

         

        Bob

         

         

        From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        
        Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:10 PM
        
        To: Active Directory Admin Issues

        Subject: Adding New Computer to Domain
        
         

        Is there a way to change the default OU that new computers are 
automatically added to when joined to an active directory domain?  
        
        We are looking to add a group policy that basically locks down a 
computer as soon as it's added to the domain, and then move the computer to an 
OU that has the policy that it should receive based on who/what/where.  You 
cannot add a group policy to the default Computers OU.  So far Googlefu hasn't 
yielded anything.
        
        TIA,
        
        -- 
        Sherry Abercrombie
        
        "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
        Arthur C. Clarke 

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