It sounds like they don't understand the functionality. You are very
fortunate they didn't lock you out entirely as it isn't difficult at all
to entirely empty out  high level groups (including the built-in
administrator account) and do a DOS on all your admin accounts
effectively locking you out of your entire AD. That's one of the reason
they changed the behavior in the W2KSP4 era and experienced admins will
tell you to use restricted groups very judiciously and only if you
completely understand the ramifications.. 

 

From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:55 PM
To: Active Directory Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Members Disappearing from Group

 

It was apparently another admin who thought about locking down the
Domain Admins group in the Default Domain policy Restricted Groups
setting.  He put the group in there but then failed to put any users in
the group.  Thus we'd add back the appropriate users, and as soon as the
policy refreshed, out they came again.  I'll have to track this person
down via the logs.

 

- Philip

 

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From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Active Directory Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Members Disappearing from Group

 

Correct, as the name implies it manages SD's (Security Descriptors) of
objects in the protected groups.

 

It has nothing to do with altering group membership

 

From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:18 AM
To: Active Directory Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Members Disappearing from Group

 

AdminSDHolder issues usually manifest as AD permissions disappearing.

 

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From: Turner, Robert D. Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:49 AM
To: Active Directory Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Members Disappearing from Group

 

There is also something called AdminDSHolder or is it AdminSDHolder.
Basically, it sees a lesser (than DA) with delegated access to the user
object that is a DA and does not like that.  I can't remember if it
takes away DA or does something else.  It was over a year ago when I ran
into it.

 

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From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:43 AM
To: Active Directory Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Members Disappearing from Group

 

Group policy can do this.

 

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From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:39 AM
To: Active Directory Admin Issues
Subject: Members Disappearing from Group

 

We recently staring experiencing an issue with members disappearing from
groups to which they normally belong.  Today it was 4 users suddenly no
longer being members of the Domain Admins group.  Any ideas what might
be going on?  I'm reasonably sure I don't have a rogue administrator
screwing with me.  I'm concerned about general AD corruption or even a
root kit.

 

Thanks.

 

Phil Hershey

Carpinteria, CA

 

 

 

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