Hello All,
Catching up on the conversation and a few things to add --- I can relate to Damian's original post -- as while living overseas you see this gaping hole of knowledge about practitioners based in NZ. I think that ADA has done alot to alter this for digital media art, and the other sites mentioned have made some improvements. Though nzlive.com seems to be largely an event promotion site. One good example of the kind of thing that can be done to start to solve Damian's quandry is the good work of Zoe Drayton, Luke Duncalfe, and all on the Audio Foundation site. With it's ability to for artists to add their profile, it creates something of a contextualised beginning point for curators and interested people -- http://www.audiofoundation.org.nz/artists In response to Julian's last point I'd say I have to agree that getting to know people and sharing ideas in person is ideal. Though as great as it would be, the expense of sending everyone out is part of what made developing something like SCANZ seem like a good idea. Bringing people here also means that visitors can understand something of our fuller context here, and NZ practitioners can network from a position of strength. Hopefully this might also then lead to greater ease in finding good networking and working opportunities internationally. I think for me the main point though is always going to be the ideas -- the creative exchange of ideas as Adam put it. This is what keeps us all kind of enthralled, and it doesn't have nationalistic boundaries. What might be some ways of networking these ideas, and therefore these people together? What are some of the more interesting ways for online and in-person relationships to trigger each other? How can the exchange of ideas take place in such a way that builds an informed context? These are the kinds of questions I am thinking about at the moment as part of an ongoing interest in developing online spaces for the exchange of ideas - for artists, curators, theoreticians, through to a general art-interested public. best, // Trudy On Sep 23, 2008, at 11:26 PM, Julian Oliver wrote: > ..on Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 01:27:31PM +0200, Damian Stewart wrote: >> Julian Oliver wrote: >>> to seek 'recognition' for what one makes is an empty project in >>> itself >>> work must first be 'recognised'. if a work is seen to be >>> transformative >>> then those that believe so will take care to distribute that >>> value to >>> others without need of any government endorsement, promotional >>> capital >>> or even a website. >> >> i'm going to have to call you on this one, J. i think you >> considerably >> understate the importance of self-promotion. over the last year and a >> half here in Europe i feel i have made enormous headway, and have >> been >> very successful in making the kinds of contacts and relationships >> that >> are necessary to actually pull off a career as an artist. but for the >> most part this hasn't happened through the strength of my work, but >> rather through my willingness to live a kind of crazy, stressful, >> confusing, disorientating life, and put myself into situations where >> these kinds of meetings have been possible; as you put it to me >> once, to >> get on a plane to another city with 100 euros in my pocket and not >> have a >> clue what's going to happen next. i haven't lived continuously in one >> city for more than 2 months, nor slept in a bed i could reasonably >> call >> 'mine', since June 2007. > > as i said later in the post it's not that i think promotion isn't > important, far from it. what you've been doing however - described > above > - isn't promotion so much as networking, which certainly counts for > far > more than indiscrete and unsolicited attempts to promote your work > online or elsewhere. i'd say you'll get more gigs because other > artists > and curators actually like you and your ideas and because they've > enjoyed working with you (which i've seen first hand in your case).. > > as you point out even having an opportunity to network is particularly > hard for Kiwis based in New Zealand, which is why i think that > cultural > funding would be /better/ spent on airfares and accomodation abroad, > cultural exchanges and residencies than promotion online. > > julian > Zagreb, Croatia > > -- > julian oliver > http://julianoliver.com > messages containing HTML won't be read. > _______________________________________________ > Ada_list mailing list > [email protected] > http://aotearoadigitalarts.org.nz/ _______________________________________________ Ada_list mailing list [email protected] http://aotearoadigitalarts.org.nz/
