Hi Sergiu,
Il 30/04/2016 19:15, Sergiu IANCIUC ha scritto:
Re[2]: [address-policy-wg] Fwd: [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE Policy
Proposals - April Update
salut Riccardo,
1. I propose that here -
Proposals Open for Discussion:
2015-05, "Revision of Last /8 Allocation Criteria"
Proposal Overviews:
PROPOSAL: 2015-05, "Revision of Last /8 Allocation Criteria"
OVERVIEW: Aims to allow LIRs to request an additional /22 IPv4
allocation from the RIPE NCC every 18 months. The latest version of the
proposal suggests several requirements, such as the LIR cannot hold more
than a /20 IPv4, must document their IPv6 deployment and has not
transferred any IPv4 address space before.
STATUS: Discussion Phase
WHERE TO COMMENT: Address Policy Working Group:
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
DEADLINE: 13 May 2016
FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-05
to be introduced a definition that includes in the " has not
transferred any IPv4 address space before" list the LIR that
transferred a prefix to an other LIR if this prefix was allocated to
the receiving LIR when it was not the RIPE NCC member/LIR.
If I understand well your point this is already a requirement in
2015-05. Please have a look to the full proposal at
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-05
point [...] "3.1. The LIR has not transferred any IPv4 address space to
another LIR, a member of another RIR, or an End User." [...]
2. explain pls what does it signify
The latest version of the proposal suggests several requirements, such
as the LIR cannot hold more than a /20 IPv4
cannot hold more then /20 unused ?
Doesn't matter if the /20 is used or not. With current text of the
2015-05 if an LIR already holds up to a /20 could not request any
additional allocation from available pool outside 185/8.
If he didn't request a last /22 from 185/8 he can request it at any time.
Feel free to give the list your opinion about supporting 2015-05 or not.
thank you for your interest
kind regards
Riccardo
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Saturday, April 30, 2016, 6:41:04 PM, you wrote:
Hi Sergiu,
thank you for your reply. I don't get if you disagree with current
policy or proposed one.
Anyway:
The LIR that assisgned or allocated the first /22 to your current new
LIR can transfert the space once 24 months are passed.
This is the holding time before a transfert can take place standing on
current policies.
2015-05 policy proposal won't change this aspect.
kind regards
Riccardo
Il 30/04/2016 11:29, Sergiu IANCIUC ha scritto:
salut Riccardo,
I do not totally agree with you.. and I explain why.
you are talking about the case in the future.. but I give an actual
example..
2 years ago my company has an allocated prefix from a LIR. After 1
year we asked additional resources and had a negative response because
of the RIPE Policy limitations. after the next year the situation was
the same and to receive an additional prefix we became LIR. Now, pls
answer... why to not permit transfer from the old LIR to the new one
if they agree on it and do it for ensure the new LIR in continuity of
the prefix use (all this with condition that this prefix was allocated
by the old LIR when the new LIR has the status OTHER).
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Saturday, April 30, 2016, 8:33:49 AM, you wrote:
Dear Sergiu,
about your example and its eventual realtionship with the proposal
2015-05:
Company X would have not limit in receive address space as described
in transfert or allocation policies.
The limit described in 2015-05 would be applied to the LIR that
assigned space to Company X and, as described in your example, later
transfered the space in Company X registry.
This LIR is supposed to not need address space as it moved it outside
its registry so it would not be able to request an additional /22
allocation from pool outside 185/8 standing on 2015-05 proposal
On the other hand if Company X after its sing up as a new LIR after 18
months need more space and there is enough space outside 185/8 would
be able to request an additional /22 standing on 2015-05 proposal.
The LIR that offered the first /22 to Company X as "assigned
resource" could also request an additional /22 allocation if its
registry is holding less than a /20 IPv4.
hope this help
regards
Riccardo
Il 29/04/2016 10:38, Sergiu IANCIUC ha scritto:
hello,
PLS, take in consideration the situation
Company X has a /22 from its LIR. The LIR can not offer more IPv4
spaces and the Company X becomes a LIR to satisfy its needs. Now, it
is logical that the LIR (if agreed between these 2 LIRs) transfers the
space allocated to the Company X (now the new LIR) AND THIS have to
not be the part from the policy -
"requirements, such as the LIR has not transferred any IPv4 address
space before."
What are you thinking about?
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From: Marco Schmidt <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Date: Friday, April 29, 2016, 11:18:23 AM
Subject: [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE Policy Proposals - April Update
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Dear colleagues,
Here is our monthly overview of open policy proposals and their stage in
the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP).
If you wish to join the discussion about a particular proposal, please
do so on the relevant working group mailing list.
Proposals Open for Discussion:
2015-05, "Revision of Last /8 Allocation Criteria"
Proposals Awaiting Input:
2015-04, "RIPE Resource Transfer Policies"
2016-01, "Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the Abuse-c Policy"
Proposal Overviews:
PROPOSAL: 2015-05, "Revision of Last /8 Allocation Criteria"
OVERVIEW: Aims to allow LIRs to request an additional /22 IPv4
allocation from the RIPE NCC every 18 months. The latest version of the
proposal suggests several requirements, such as the LIR cannot hold more
than a /20 IPv4, must document their IPv6 deployment and has not
transferred any IPv4 address space before.
STATUS: Discussion Phase
WHERE TO COMMENT: Address Policy Working Group:
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
DEADLINE: 13 May 2016
FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-05
=====
The following proposals are awaiting input before they can go any
further in the PDP.
PROPOSAL: 2015-04, "RIPE Resource Transfer Policies"
OVERVIEW: Aims to create a single transfer policy with all relevant
information on the transfer of Internet number resources, replacing text
in several RIPE Policies. The proposal also introduces a 24-month
holding period for IPv4 addresses and 16-bit ASNs after any change of
holdership.
RIPE NCC IMPACT ANALYSIS: Includes the point how the 24-month holding
period for scarce resources will be applied.
STATUS: Review Phase – Awaiting decision from working group chair
FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-04
PROPOSAL: 2016-01, "Include Legacy Internet Resource Holders in the
Abuse-c Policy"
OVERVIEW: Aims for a mandatory abuse contact for Legacy Internet
Resource holders in the RIPE Database.
STATUS: Discussion Phase – Awaiting decision from proposer
FULL PROPOSAL: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2016-01
The RIPE NCC provides an overview of current RIPE Policy Proposals on
www.ripe.net
<http://www.ripe.net>:https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/current-proposals/current-policy-proposals
We look forward to your involvement in the PDP.
Kind regards,
Marco Schmidt
RIPE Policy Development Officer
RIPE NCC
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