Dear colleagues,

I suggest to just look at the facts here.

Local Internet Registries(LIRs) before the 15th September 2012 have received 
Provider Aggregatable(PA) allocations from the RIPE NCC. Local Internet 
Registries after the 14th September 2012 have also received Provider 
Aggregatable(PA) allocations from the RIPE NCC.

There is no mention in the Service Agreement that allocations provided after 
14th September 2012 are to be treated differently than those handed out before 
the 15th September 2012. There is also no mention in the respective policies, 
as was mentioned during one of the talks at RIPE-72 in Denmark, that 
allocations received after the 14th September 2012 are to be used for the sole 
purpose of providing legacy connections to IPv4 networks.

Therefore it seems inconceivable that this proposal is allowed to go forward 
any longer than it already has as it would seek to single out already heavily 
disadvantaged members even more for the sole reason that they happen to be 
holding an allocation received after the 14th September 2012.

Fellow policy shaping participants, I believe we have several options here:

a) Modify this proposal to forbid all types of transfers including mergers and 
acquisitions. This will provide a level playing field for all RIPE NCC members 
and not single out members solely on the fact that they have received an 
allocation after the 14th September 2012.

b) Modify this proposal to change the allocation status only for new 
allocations allocated after this proposal has been accepted and implemented.

c) Declare that no consensus has been reached.


Additionally I would like to mention that some people seem to think that this 
proposal will stifle the Local Internet Registry application rate. Let me 
assure you, it will not. Those of you that believe that this would be the 
result of the acceptance of this proposal don't fully grasp the reality of the 
situation we are in.

People currently need IPv4 resources to run a business. They don't need IPv6 
resources yet and won't be requiring IPv6 resources for the foreseeable future 
either. A business is required to take the necessary steps to secure their 
survival and let me assure you they will do just that, just as any business 
should.

Now where do we go from here? I am in favour of making sensible policies that 
will provide IPv4 address space for the foreseeable future for new members 
however this proposal is certainly not a way to achieve that as it does not 
solve the problem at hand.

I have been giving this quite some thought which is the reason why I will be 
putting forward the following proposal within the next week:

=> Lower the initial allocation a new RIPE NCC member receives down to a /24.

=> A new member may request an additional /24 every twelve months until he has 
reached a /22.

For aggregation purposes the RIPE NCC will reserve a consecutive /22 for as 
long as it is possible so new members may reach a consecutive /22 after they 
have requested four /24 subnets over a time span of four years.

Additionally, as I understand it this is something that needs to be voted on, I 
would like to lower the initial signup fee of currently 2000,00 Euros down to 
just 500,00 Euros. In case they request an additional /24 after twelve months 
they will need to pay an additional instalment of 500,00 Euros which will bring 
the total amount still to 2000,00 Euros if they requested 4x /24 allocations 
over a period of 4 years. After each allocation the RIPE NCC will aggregate the 
allocation whenever possible. Subsequently if a new member requests a second 
/24 the allocation will be enlarged to a /23. In the end he will be left with 
one /22 if there is sufficient consecutive address space left to do so.

In cases where the Local Internet Registry does not require any IPv4 address 
space it should also not be required to pay any fees apart from the membership 
fees.


Kind Regards,
Stefan Prager

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