Hi Sander,
I think I should've carefully looked at Ingrid's e-mail, maybe through
some glasses :)
Indeed, the message from Ingrid stated exactly what I was asking for.
I am still hoping to receive a message (it can be in private) from one
of the the NCC's ops to see if we can find out why my initial message
did not make it to the list.
Apologies for all the noise, at least this is not 'popcorn style' like
yesterday's :)
Regards,
Elvis
On 10/20/16 7:33 PM, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hello Elvis,
Therefore, I think that the RIPE NCC should talk to every single company
holding a PI assignment from an ALLOCATED PI/UNSPECIFIED block and give
them the option to give up on the maintenance of the IPs (and the right
to transfer/sell) and transform them into ASSIGNED PA, or become a PI
user - like all the others in the world - and sign a maintenance
agreement with a LIR (and have the €50/year associated cost).
The message Ingrid sent on the 4th of August already stated: "The WG agreed that,
where the LIR can document a mutual agreement that they administer the address space, a
conversion from PI to PA should take place. In all other cases, assignments with the
status ASSIGNED PI should be treated as being assigned by the RIPE NCC."
So no need to talk to each and every resource holder. The responsibility is
with the LIR to show documentation, and the default is to convert the
assignment to normal PI. And that is as far as we need to go here. The rest are
implementation details and should be left to the RIPE NCC. Let's not
micro-manage who exactly they should talk to.
So to summarise: I think what you want is already part of what the RIPE NCC
proposed, modulo implementation details. So the previous message holds: RIPE
NCC, please move ahead.
Cheers,
Sander
