On 17.01.2019 15:37, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg wrote:
> We need to consider as well, as I depicted already before, that if you have a
> physical sever, you probably need also multiple addresses for that server,
> that's why, I think the policy should allow that (this is clearly now allowed
> now).
Let's consult ripe-707:
>
> 2.6. Assign
>
> To “assign” means to delegate address space to an ISP or End User for
> specific use within the Internet infrastructure they operate. Assignments
> must only be made for specific purposes documented by specific organisations
> and are not to be sub-assigned to other parties.
>
> Providing another entity with separate addresses (not prefixes) from a subnet
> used on a link operated by the assignment holder is not considered a
> sub-assignment. This includes for example letting visitors connect to the
> assignment holder's network, connecting a server or appliance to an
> assignment holder's network and setting up point-to-point links with 3rd
> parties.
>
>
> 2.9. End Site
>
> An End Site is defined as an End User (subscriber) who has a business or
> legal relationship (same or associated entities) with a service provider that
> involves:
>
> * that service provider assigning address space to the End User
> * that service provider providing transit service for the End User to other
> sites
> * that service provider carrying the End User's traffic
> * that service provider advertising an aggregate prefix route that contains
> the End User's assignment
>
By these definitions, only an IR ("2.1. Internet Registry (IR)") can "assign"
allocated address space to non-IRs, i. e. ISPs or End Users, in the context of
ripe-707.
The term "ISP" is not wll defined within ripe-707 except for "LIRs are
generally ISPs whose customers are primarily End Users and possibly other ISPs"
in "2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR)". The graph in "2. Definitions" suggests
that ISPs are the entities that are actually creating the Internet, whereas
(L)IRs are involved in distributing IP space only. Since, following 2.6., only
an (I)SP _that also is an (L)IR_ could, acting in it's (L)IR role, "assign"
address space, 2.9. should therefore receive a friendly "s/service
provider/ISP/g" and have the first bullet point removed.
On the other hand, 2.6. in it's current form – except for the "separate
addresses (not prefixes)" issue, as any singke address IS technically also a
/128 prefix – seems rather clear to me: if it's for the documented "specific
use within the Internet infrastructure they operate", it's fine. Otherwise, a
separate assignment is needed for either a new specific use _or a different End
User_, so the ISP or End User (or the ISP for it's End User) will have to
request that from an (L)IR (which it may be itself, if the ISP or End User is
an LIR as well).
Thus, if you need "multiple addresses" for your "physical server" and you
received an assignment for your infrastructure including your server(s), I
cannot see a conflict with ripe-707. If you want to add a dedicated server for
a customer of yours, I'd expect you to get a new (non-PI) prefix (i. e. no less
than a /64 as per 5.4.1.) for this different End User from your LIR of choice
(or have that End User apply for a /48 PIv6 via your cooperative LIR).
Regards,
-kai
