Hello!
I have been considering different ideas how to implement a good system.
That improves the current resource-distribution system.
Because i think we can all agree that we should only implement changes that
provide a significant improvement over the current situation.
Sadly i have failed to find language that would achieve the goal.
Lets try define some scenarios and clearly outline what we are trying to
solve and what the side-effects are.
To me it appears the "issue" at hand is that some members feel that new LIRs
will suffer from a reduced chance to recieve a /24 in the future.
*) Auction mode suggestion:
Realistically, this means, that in the short term this will disrupt the
"aftermarket", but i do not think the amount of requests will go down. In
fact, it may have the opposite effect. As its
more convienient and represents less "risk" than a transaction via broker.
*) Only new members can request a /24
This instantly you down the road of evaluating and clawing for
proof/documentation without a good method of verification. Lets face the
fact that its easy to spin off new businesses. So instead
of the "main company" sending the request, now you get an influx of newly
formed companies (ie a LLC creats 5 LLCs for sub parts of its business,
maybe one per location?).
Are any of those "non legimiate"? How do you define a verification process
for that (asset based? if yes, what if they hold colocation
contracts+server+router hardware"?....)
If we severely limit based on company ownership, or,.. then we quickly go
down the path of "free will" assignments vs an exactly defined process/path.
Alternativly: all i see is a lot of database polution without any real value
being added.
.....
If we cannot find language to guarantee a clear guideline for new
assignments, where the positive effects outway the negative consequences,
then:
I think we should just accept the fact that we will likely not improve the
current situation. Especially in the context of the current state of things,
where a few years down the road, there
will be no alternative to said "aftermarket".
Regards
Sebastian Graf
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg writes:
I don't think this will work and it not fair.
Those resources should be provided only to new-entrants not new-LIRs from
exisiting members.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 23/11/21 21:53, "address-policy-wg en nombre de Wolfgang Zenker" <address-
[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió:
Greetings,
in todays WG session Marco Schmidt pointed out that more than half of
the /24s allocated from the waiting list pool go to members with
multiple LIRs. The number of newly created LIRs eligible for a /24 has
increased a lot in recent months, to the point where requests can no
longer be filled from the available pool but new LIRs have to wait for
blocks coming out of quarantine. This change appears to be due to market
value for IPv4 blocks being now significantly larger than the cost for
creating a new LIR and maintaining it for the two year holding period.
The result of this is that newcomers have no easy access to a first IPv4
block but have to wait in line together with multi-LIR address hoarders,
defeating the purpose of the waiting list policy.
I suggest to replace the waiting list with the following system:
- /24s becoming available are put to an auction.
- every interested member organisation (NOT: LIR) can make a bid of an
amount that is not visible to the other bidders.
- highest bid wins.
Expected result would be less requests from address hoarders because
they could get address blocks for a similar price on the open market
without the additional overhead of creating a new member. Newcomers on
the other hand would have to become members to be able to hold addresses
in the first place, and can use the auction to get access to a properly
quarantined address block to start their business.
Regards,
Wolfgang Zenker
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