On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 18:09, Brian Storey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Tore,
>
> Does this not contradict other purposes / objectives of the registry, 
> including the principles of registering public networks or am I missing 
> something?

+1
my thoughts exactly

cheers
denis
co-chair DB-WG


>
> Many thanks,
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address-policy-wg <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Tore Anderson
> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 12:22 PM
> To: Andrii Syrovatko <[email protected]>; 
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> Cc: APEX NCC ORG <[email protected]>; Trifle NOC <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2023-04 New Policy Proposal (Add 
> AGGREGATED-BY-LIR status for IPv4 PA assignments)
>
> * APEX NCC ORG
>
> > Hello, Team!
> > I read the offer provided:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> > ripe.net%2Fparticipate%2Fpolicies%2Fproposals%2F2023-04&data=05%7C01%7
> > Cbrian.storey%40gamma.co.uk%7C3a23e9f95d904f83274a08dbad391d6b%7C743a5
> > d9f11234f3f8fcf5766b8ad8bf9%7C0%7C0%7C638294233043320645%7CUnknown%7CT
> > WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
> > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9dEJGnNWdlapbyyzjM5qgJvn%2BB6G%2BGp6jjmu
> > %2FcDzZPY%3D&reserved=0
> > three times.
> > However, I still don't understand the real reason for introducing the
> > AGGREGATED-BY-LIR status The text of the proposal contains only
> > general provisions.
> > Can you provide a more detailed description and examples?
>
> Hi Andrii!
>
> There are several possible examples, but let me give you just one:
>
> Let's say you're a small cloud VPS provider in the business of leasing out 
> virtual machines to small businesses and private individuals. Your cloud 
> management software dynamically assigns IPv4 addresses out of
> 192.0.2.0/24 to customers, so you have for example:
>
> 192.0.2.1/32 = assigned to Alice's first VM - used for a web server
> 192.0.2.2/32 = assigned to Bob - used for a Minecraft server
> 192.0.2.3/32 = assigned to Bob's hair salon business = web server
> 192.0.2.4/32 = assigned to Alice's second VM - mail server
>
> …and so on.
>
> Current policy requires you to register four individual INETNUM assignments 
> of size /32 for the above four virtual machines.
>
> However, due to the GDPR requirements, you usually cannot put Alice's and 
> Bob's names or contact info into the RIPE database, so instead you typically 
> substitute your own (this is allowed by policy).
>
> That means you have now four individual INETNUMs with identical contact 
> information (your own). You need to add or remove these /32 INETNUMs as 
> customer VMs come and go. You can automate this, but it is a pointless 
> exercise in any case.
>
> To avoid this, we propose allowing you to create a single INETNUM that covers 
> the entire 192.0.2.0 - 192.0.2.255 range, just like you can already do with 
> any IPv6 assignments made to the same VMs. This aggregated object will cover 
> all customer VMs in your cloud infrastructure, present and future, and makes 
> it so that you don't have to send a RIPE database update every time a 
> customer VM is provisioned or discontinued.
>
> Tore
>
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