Hi John,
>> Ok, so which region does Mars fall into? > > Indeterminate at this time for an organization that is based on Mars. For > organizations based on > Earth, they can utilize their regional RIR for their number resource needs > under existing policies. Ok great. So we end up with agencies drawing prefixes from three different RIRs and zero aggregation. No thank you, that’s exactly what I’d like to avoid. >>> Each RIR community has a service organization (their RIR) which has >>> services and fees, governed by a member-elected body. >>> In addition, each community has a policy development process where they >>> establish and update registry policies. >>> >>> Agencies may want to "place address space requests for outer space” but >>> it’s a little more than that - self-governance of Internet >>> number resources mean that they will need to participate in these things in >>> order to to make sure that it meets their needs. >> >> >> That’s a tall bar that you’re setting. Does every ISP today have to >> participate? > > ISPs participate in at least one RIR in order to obtain and manage their > number resources. > > The level of participation varies, with some also participating in the RIR’s > policy development > processes, some getting involved in RIR governance, and some doing both. > Many ISPs don’t > get involved until there’s issue of great interest to them, and in the > meantime rely the efforts of > their colleagues to handle more routine matters. What about end users? The agencies have a role more akin to enterprises in that they are not service providers to external entities. >>> If they want to use an existing RIR for such, that’s great - that RIR’s >>> community will establish appropriate policies, fees, and >>> services. If they want to establish a new RIR,, that’s also a great >>> option, and the resulting RIR (once recognized) will perform >>> these functions. As to whether that’s just "a detail”, I would say it is >>> not - since the choice will determine how you go about >>> getting the policy that you need established. >>> >>> Does that help clarify things? >> >> >> Not really. They are mission focused. Their requirement is address space. >> Full stop. They have about as much interest interest in RIR policies as my >> kids do. > > Which is actually quite similar to many ISPs… but then again, there are > existing policies which > clearly cover the requests that most ISPs need to make for number resources, > and that is not > the case with respect to policies for IP addressing for other planets. How about we just extend those policies along the lines that I’ve described? Tony
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