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On 2/14/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
found it

http://mojo.codehaus.org/rat-maven-plugin/

looking later at it

-Matthias

On 2/14/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> see inline for some comment
>
> On 2/10/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In short : according to me they are.. Any feedback and additions 
appreciated.. On note : I like to
> > see that at least the plugins get a release before we start a vote on dev 
(and I expressed below
> > that you are targetting to have a release of core before leaving the 
incubator,  although that could
> > be a misunderstanding)
>
> the plugins release is now available for a vote on the trinidad_dev.
> I figured out how to do that with the maven stuff (learned the hard
> way, like Manfred in the MyFaces Core camp ;)). I'd like to see a
> quick followed "Trinidad Core" after we get the plugins approved.
> Should be more easy, since we have figured out what exactly to do and
> I also documented the procedure.
>
>
> >
> > If everyone agrees on dev, we start a vote on the incubator general list 
and after that on the
> > MyFaces private list. Exit strategy probably needs to be discussed with the 
MyFaces crowd (like
> > mailinglists) and they probably need to have votes on people on the 
trinidad ppmc list that are not
> > yet on the MyFaces PMC (but that's up to the MyFaces PMC). I'll subscribe 
to the private myfaces
> > list (in case you didn't know : I can as a member, which doesn't actually 
mean that I am on that PMC
> > or have a binding vote there).
>
> yes, as a member you can easily subscribe to the private list. That's
> fine. Also +1 on having a discussion started on the MyFaces Private
> one regarding the exiting strategy.
>
>
> >
> >
> > The very long version :
> >
> > To determine if Trinidad is ready to leave the incubator I took
> > 
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Exiting+the+Incubator 
and tried to
> > answer all the questions. The first 3 on that page are actually the last 
ones, since I am treating
> > them more as general conclusions.
> >
> >
> > Legal
> >
> > * All code ASL'ed
> > Looking at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ADFFACES-355 it is solved. 
Most important is that
> > before the release everything is ok, so that check needs to be done before 
a release (eg by using
> > RAT, mojo.codehaus.org is working on a maven2 plugin atm).
>
> A plugin for RAT would be sweet. Can you keep me posted ? Can you do
> the RAT thing on the plugins release thing ?
>
>
> >
> > * No non ASL or ASL compatbile dependencies in the code base
> > Don't see any problems here (just checked the deps in the poms).
> >
> > * License grant complete
> > Yep
> >
> > * CLAs on file.
> > Yep. Even people who submitted patches were asked to file a CLA.
> >
> > * Check of project name for trademark issues
> > Was tried, but since no one as access to the trademark database, it has 
hard to determine.
>
> More, I filled an issue against the Incubator, since the "mentioned"
> database is not accessible without paying the big box.
>
>
> > Meritocracy / Community
> >
> > * Demonstrate an active and diverse development community
> > The community is very active, people send in patches that get applied, user 
community is a bit
> > behind, but that should grow ones Trinidad is released.
> >
> > * The project is not highly dependent on any single contributor (there's at 
least 3 legally
> > independent committers and there is no single company or entity that is 
vital to the success of the
> > project)
> >
> > The main contributors are all employed by Oracle (based on the *commits* 
since end of December).
> > These are matzew, jwaldman and awiner.
> > gcrawford   - Oracle
> > jfallows    - Not oracle anymore
> > mmarinschek - Irian (?)
> > slessard    - DMR Consulting Inc (?)
> > baranda     - ?
> > Mentors / champions
> > craigmcc    - Sun
> > mvdb        - Ordina (I don't count myself as a committer though)
> > mgeiler     - ? (not oracle afaik)
>
> jfallows    => brane inc
> mmarinschek => irian
> slessard    = >DMR Consulting Inc
> baranda     => somewhere in England, working at a biology institute.
> mgeiler => irian as well :)
>
>
> >
> > Looking at the above list, it could mean a worry, which will be a lot less 
worry looking at the rest
> > of the exit list.
>
> well, Simon and Bruno also did their part ... :)
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
>
> >
> > * The above implies that new committers are admitted according to ASF 
practices
> >
> > Absolutely. There were 3 committers added during incubation, one not Oracle 
and 2 Oracle people.
> > From my perspective all 3 deserved to be committer (with that amount of 
activity, people should be
> > voted in as a committer to be honest), so no favours were made just because 
someone is from Oracle.
> > Currently some other people are on the radar to become committer (non 
Oracle).
> >
> > * ASF style voting has been adopted and is standard practice
> >
> > In every way.
> >
> > * Demonstrate ability to tolerate and resolve conflict within the community.
> >
> > Haven't noted much conflicts to be honest, but I am happy with the 
oversight that is done and how
> > commits that get feedback get resolved quickly. I use the word feedback, 
since I haven't noticed any
> > strong -1 on a commit, since there is respect for each others knowledge, 
ego's don't tend to play
> > up, which is a good thing.
> >
> > * Release plans are developed and excuted in public by the community.
> >
> > This is done and currently the project is making it easier to do release 
(cut down the manual work
> > of the release). The project has some problems getting a release out the 
door, which is partially
> > solved by adding another mentor, so the project actually can get 3 binding 
votes on a release. The
> > goal is to release the plugins and the core before leaving incubation. 
Currently there is
> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/TrinidadReleaseProcedure on the wiki, which 
after the releases are
> > done can be formalised as a permanent part of the website.
> >
> > * Engagement by the incubated community with the other ASF communities, 
particularly infrastructure@
> > (this reflects my personal bias that projects should pay an nfrastructure 
"tax").
> >
> > This is the case, since there is my synergy with the MyFaces community and 
most people from Trinidad
> > are also actively involved there. So infrastructure is less of a problem, 
since that is handled (in
> > the future) by the MyFaces PMC.
> >
> > * Incubator PMC has voted for graduation
> > * Destination PMC, or ASF Board for a TLP, has voted for final acceptance
> >
> > The goal of this mail to get those votes :)
> >
> > Alignment / Synergy
> >
> > * Use of other ASF subprojects
> >
> > Not specifically, since the goals is to be JSR compliant.
> >
> > * Develop synergistic relationship with other ASF subprojects
> >
> > MyFaces is the sponsoring PMC.
> >
> > Infrastructure
> >
> > * SVN module has been created
> >
> > Yep, but it will move to MyFaces.
> >
> > * Mailing list(s) have been created
> > * Mailing lists are being archived
> >
> > Do we keep the trinidad lists ?
> >
> > * Issue tracker has been created
> > * Project website has been created
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > * Project ready to comply with ASF mirroring guidlines
> >
> > The maven plugins don't need a seperate download and are therefor mirrored 
to the maven
> > repositories. The Trinidad core still needs a release and will setup a 
download page according to
> > the mirroring guidelines.
> >
> > * Project is integrated with GUMP if appropriate
> >
> > It is appropiate, but no gump integration afaik (since I am on the Gump 
PMC, I like to see this
> > happening).
> >
> > * Releases are PGP signed by a member of the community
> >
> > Yep. Key signing is part of the standard release process.
> >
> > * Developers tied into ASF PGP web of trust
> >
> > Don't have a clue. Everyone coming to Apachecon however can join the Key 
Signing session to be
> > trusted even more :).
> >
> > Conclusions :
> >
> > * it is a worthy and healthy project
> >
> > It is definitely a worthy and healthy project. Even though there can be 
concerns about the number of
> > Oracle people involved, I think they have proven that they treat this 
project as an Apache project
> > and not as an Oracle project. I think a complement is even in order, since 
it could be very tempting
> > to do it the wrong way.
> >
> > * it truly fits within the ASF framework
> > +1
> >
> > * it "gets" the Apache Way.
> >
> > It definitely gets the Apache Way. They are open for feedback, act promptly 
when something slipped
> > through the cracks and they really *want* to do the right thing. I even 
never heard a complaint on
> > having to do things the Apache way.
> >
> > Mvgr,
> > Martin
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>


--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh

further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com



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mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com

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