On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 05:11:39PM -0400, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
> But you need some reason to believe it nonetheless.  Otherwise I could
> assert anything I liked, for instance, that Her Majesty might read the
> blog and exercise her veto power through the Governer General's
> office.  Saying it don't make it so, even if we'd really want it.

/me decides to completely give up the role of devil's^Wbloggers advocate
> 
> It's an awkward question to ask without offense, but how many of those
> groups cause change at the Parliamentary level?

s/groups/group/g and it does cause change at the Parliamentary level.

Additionally, you mentioned below, that with the resources you
specified, the CFIB effected such change and saved you $200/yr in taxes
through their lobbying. So it appears that it can be done.

>     K> Obviously someone who has a Linux-based business, might
>     K> consider it a sensible investment to donate $100/mo
> 
> Again, speculation: We have no precident in the entire open source
> community to believe this is true.  If we did, then I might entertain
> the notion, but we don't.  No professional free-software org has
> received this sort of support on a national scale.  The closest that
> comes to mind is the LPI which is also tightly entwined with the
> business interests of its sponsors, but it requires _international_
> scope to raise the little amount it has to play with.

Ok, so $100/mo was a little high, but I've had at least one response
that $1k/yr seemed reasonable when I asked a few friends with the
resources to consider such contributions. If only we had a metric
calendar so people rounding /unit-of-time wouldn't create these
embarassing differences :)

> I'm dubious of the claim, but always welcome being proved wrong about
> such cynical things ;)

Well I still think it's unlikely that we'd get anything going since
there is still that whole vicious circle of "i'll contribute when i see
some results" and "we need money to make some results"

> For a free-software org to command the same "minimum $35/month"
> commitment from me, they'd have to demonstrate a postive impact on my
> corporate bottom line, but that's all: If they directly help me make
> money, I'm happy to spread the wealth around, but if all they do is
> create PR events, well I can do that more cheaply with a naked lady on
> a white horse.

We seem to already have some effective lobbyists in our midst. IMHO,
the most sensible way to support a Free Software/Open Source  lobby
right now would be to let them keep doing what they're doing, and
occasionally provide them with the means to raise funds for research
(interestingly enough, I think any necessary research could be done
_relatively_ cheaply due to the availability of social scientists with a
personal interest in Free Software and Open Source - though admittedly,
most of the ones I know have left academia, reducing our ability to get
the research done on the universities' dime)

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Kristofer Coward                                http://unripe.melon.org/
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