OK, with the keyframes being reduced and running the 1024 NTSC download preset and a 640 x 480 frame size, I am getting a decent file size. However, the picture is blurry. What accounts for this? Seems to me if Premiere is going to snap a keyframe, it would at least make an accurate one. Does anyone know why it's so blurry? Thanks, Kevin
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taky Cheung Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AP] Web Export Settings WME won't take Premiere project. You will need to export to an AVI file before loading it to WME. Best export to DV-AVI. If you set the keyframe value too high, if someone will drag the current playing location to another point, it will take the player a long time to re-gather what's missing in the previous 100 seconds in order to rebuild the current frame. So it might not be a good idea but you can play around to find out. Very likely, if you are streaming it from a regular web server (instead of from a Windows Media Server), Windows Media Player won't let you jump the current play point to another location until the entire video is downloaded to the viewer's computer. Good luck. Taky ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Mulvihill To: Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: RE: [AP] Web Export Settings Thanks, Taky. I was just reading about the Windows Media Encoder. What I'm not clear on is if it can read and import a Premiere project. How do you get your edited Premiere files into it? I'm trying another render right now as I speak. It's making a big difference to reduce the number of keyframes. I've set it to 1 every 100 seconds and am letting the codec decide when they're really needed (there are long stretches where there's talking but nothing visual happening). I don't yet know if this will work as I hope but, whenever I get this solved, I'll let the group know what I finally ended up using in hopes of helping someone else down the line. Everyone's further insights are still recommended however. I am not out of the woods yet. Kevin _____ From: Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Taky Cheung Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:32 PM To: Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AP] Web Export Settings I usually output WMV in 416x312 with video bit rate 528 kbps and audio 32 kbps. The output is not bad and most home broadband users can still have a smooth streaming video. It's tricky to work with web streaming video as it depends on the data through bandwidth a broadband user can have. Some DSL only offers 384kbps downstream which will cause your video to keep "buffering" during playback. If your audience is within the local area network, you can export WMV in 640x480 in 1024kbps total bitrate. The results usually pretty good. Another thing, instead of using the internal Premiere Media Encoder, I downloaded the free Windows Media Encoder. By doing so, I can have WME encode in the background while I'm still working in Premiere. Also make sure you select 2-pass in the video encoding process. Hope that helps. Taky ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Mulvihill To: Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: RE: [AP] Web Export Settings Thanks for the comments so far, folks. Believe me, they sure are appreciated! Jeff, as to your questions: 1. As to the exact export settings, I have tried a bunch. Ultimately, the file needs to run inside Windows Media Player because that's supported on the company's systems. I am providing an html page with the player embedded, and also a download link to a zip in case the "students" prefer to run it standalone in the player. I've mostly been trying to make a .wmv file work but, actually, the requirement is that it run in the WMP, so any file format that provides the quality with a smaller file size will meet the need. The Make Movie option is generating .avi files. I'm a multimedia developer, Flash guy, programmer, etc. so, as I've manipulated the settings, I have tried to reduce colors and bit depth, frame size, etc. since I know all of this affects file size. I initially started with the .wmv presets and tried to modify the frame size to output the movie at its original size. Premiere generated an "unknown error" every time I tried to customize an existing preset and even when I tried to customize it in different ways. This has hampered things, but I have tried a number of .wmv and .avi settings in AME and Make Movie dialogs. 2. As to why I'm exporting... this is a video-based training course that talks about how to use some software that the client routinely uses. It will run across the intranet (initially) but there is also talk about moving it outside the firewall and on to some dedicated hosting servers. That would then make it Internet streaming. My question to you would be: given Internet / Intranet streaming and the need to run inside WMP, what are the best export settings to use to provide maximum quality and minimum file size? Thanks so much, Kevin _____ From: Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schell Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:08 AM To: Adobe-Premiere@ <mailto:Adobe-Premiere%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [AP] Web Export Settings Kevin, Combining video assets on a timeline does not create a file size of the sum of the constituent parts. Even though one of your assets is 38mb, and the other is 7mb, that has no bearing on the final size. Rather, the final size is a product of the length of the movie, and the export settings such as frame size, compressor ("codec"), bit depth, etc. So what we need to know is -- what are your exact export settings? And, why are you exporting? (i.e., what will you do with it once you export it?) This will help us to determine if you are using the right method, settings, etc. Jeff Schell www.jeffschell.com . Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) . Adobe Certified Instructor (ACI) . On-Site, Classroom Training for Premiere Pro, After Effects, Audition, Encore DVD, Photoshop . Books: Premiere Pro 2 Hands-On-Training . Premiere Pro 1.5 H-O-T . DVDs / Online Tutorials: Premiere Pro 2 Essential Training at Lynda.com -----Original Message----- what i've got is a long software training file, 38 mb and about 30 minutes long, made by one of those desktop capture programs. i created a heading against an animated background in after effects. i put the two clips together in premiere pro along with a few dissolves. the computer simulation file is a .wmv file and looks to be shot in 256 colors or less at 10/fs. since i've got the ae .avi opening file down to about 7 mb, i would have expected to generate about a 45 mb file (the ae project also runs at 10/fs), when the two clips were assembled. that hasn't happened. i've tried matching up the output audio with the audio on the simulation, and choosing all manor of options in export movie and also using the adobe media encoder. seems no matter what i try the output file is huge - sometimes half a gig but usually at least twice the size it ought to be. (and it takes forever to render.) i need to run this across an intranet so i must get the file size down. i know the frame size is big too - 879 x 688, but i've tried reducing this to 640 x 480 and still the files are too big. also, they're often very blurred looking. what's up with that? what settings do i use to bring the file size down? what i'd like is to generate a file that represents the combined file size of the clips i'm actually using. would be great to do this at the frame size of the original clip too. and also, is there anything i can do to improve the render time? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! 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