Hi Lee.

Organs and pianos have been notoriously difficult to record. This is partly due 
to the sheer dynamic range of the audio that they produce and sometimes due to 
the building surrounding the organ.

My association is more with Theatre Organs than Classical Organs, so I guess I 
have it slightly more easy than some, due to the fact that most venues have 
'soft' surroundings, so you don't get the cavernous reverberation that gets 
produced in hard-walled churches. The classic rule of thumb for microphones is 
one stereo pair approximately 1/2 to 3/4 of the auditorium length back from the 
sound source, and about 16 feet from the ground! Now that ain't easy with a 
camcorder. :-)

You really need to use a microphone that can be moved in relation to the way 
the camcorder's pointing for video, or record a separate sound track and 
synchronise is with the video on the AP timeline.
I guess that you may have realised by now that the sounds from a pipe organ 
(any sort) don't come from the console, except on the smallest of 
self-contained installations (rare). So, of you are pointing a standard 
camcorder or even professional VTR (that has a forward facing microphone) at 
the console, you are at an immediate disadvantage. If you don't know where the 
pipes actually are in the building, the organist will usually be able to tell 
you, and that's where the microphone should point.

I use a Sony HDD camcorder with a short stick microphone that sits on top and 
can be horizontally swivelled and that works well. It's also a zoom microphone, 
so it has a changeable cardiod response according to the lens's zoom setting, 
although that's not always useful with organs, as it's generally pointing in a 
different direction to the lens! However, I also get good results with a Sony 
digital tape camcorder which has a fixed forward facing microphone.

If you're recording in some cavernous cathedral, I think you need to seriously 
think about making an independent sound track, where you have total control 
over the audio capture, and none of it depends on the lens position.

Regards, 
 
Alan.
 
www.theatreorgans.co.uk
www.virtualtheatreorgans.com
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lee Menningen 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:42 PM
  Subject: RE: [AP] Video storage on punchcards?


  I note your association with organs from the signature - I'm currently doing
  an organ project and have never before encountered anything as difficult as
  an organ on the balcony in a church! After several Premiere projects,
  multi-camera sequences, and maybe 150 GB of footage we still don't have any 
useable video with good audio!...........................
  . 
   

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