--- On Sun, 2/20/11, Simon E. Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 18/02/2011 11:03, Gregg wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > Dialog is *extremely important* in a movie. What the
> characters say is 
> > how the story gets told. If your audience cannot hear
> every word, 
> > you've FAILED to get the story told.
> >
> I couldn't agree more. Dialogue (English version!) is
> dreadful in many current movies and while I accept that my ears aren't as
> good as they used to be, there are some real culprits (Tom Cruise is
> one) who seem incapable of pronouncing words clearly. If you get a
> chance, watch Casablanca again. It's such an old film now and the
> recording equipment would have been archaic compared to today's digital
> kit, but the sound quality throughout the film is superb and you can tell
> every word that every actor speaks, crystal clear. Modern sound engineers
> and recordists should take note.
> Simon

Yup, and in those days they had to splice bits of magnetic tape by hand to edit 
dialog, music and effects, then mix-record two tracks at a time, then 
record-mix those mixes together until they got down to a single mono (or later, 
stereo) recording.

One little goof in the process and all the audio editor could do was start over 
at the step prior to the problem.

As technically advanced as digital editing is, there's no bleeping reason at 
all for junk like the "Inception" DVD audio track getting released.

"Eeeep! That's horrible! I'll just go back and swap the volumes of the music 
and dialog tracks... just takes a couple clicks then a few minutes to 
export.... aaaaand DONE!"

I didn't check to see if the VTOD* (VideoTape On DVD) cheap rental special disc 
had 5.1 audio. My bet is not, the minimal menu only had options to play and 
select language.

With a full retail DVD it would be possible to extract the 5.1 audio and mix a 
stereo track with proper levels. Same deal with fixing the 5.1 audio track if 
it has the same problem.

*That's what I'm calling the new breed of rental special DVDs that began with 
Disney's "UP!". They're stuffed with a ton of trailers and advertisements, with 
all DVD functions other than fast forward blocked so you can't skip past the 
adverts. (At least the blipverts don't explode your head.) A VTOD will usually 
have a stripped down menu and no extra features. The "UP!" rental had no menu, 
everything ran in an endless loop and it had no subtitles at all, not even 
closed captioning. What good is a DVD when it's been forced to behave as much 
as possible like a VHS tape? (I bet this is why RedBox has dropped the price 
for buying a used disc to $5 from $7.)


      


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