Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS Exchange

[Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF.]

it is just a question of load, we backup more than 180 servers / night,
bringing about 250 GB into our adsm server via network (in fact 2 networks,
production and service).

Rene

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Glassman - Admin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:07 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> Exchange
> 
> Rene,
> 
> Ahhh, ok. Now that's more reasonable.
> 
> Why then don't you perform a full every day ? Wouldn't that cut your log
> time down to almost 0 ? Or is it a question of backup time ?
> 
> At the moment, I have a backup time of around 2 hours for 24GB of data,
> which includes the NT system as well as the Exchange online stuff.
> 
> Have you thought about a Bare Metal / Intelligent Disaster Recovery
> solution
> for your Exchange server ?
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: � ������ 14 2000 15:02
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:      Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> > Exchange
> > 
> > Mike,
> > 
> > I have no work to do, Exchange does it  automatically ! It just need
> > time...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Ren� Lambelet
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> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Glassman - Admin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:59 PM
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:      Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> > > Exchange
> > > 
> > > Del,
> > > 
> > > From what you say it seems it should be a rather forwards sort of
> > > backup-while-active and as easy to restore.
> > > 
> > > Yet in Rene's email of a short while ago today, it seems that he has
> to
> > > work
> > > rather hard once the restore has been done.
> > > 
> > > I am very much questioning the need to drop BE and try the TSM
> Exchange
> > > backup, as I have had extremely good results with BE, and the restore
> is
> > > easy, fast and no need of manually applying logs to the database in
> > order
> > > to
> > > get things in shape. A simple restore, reboot, and sometimes, but
> > rarely,
> > > an
> > > ISINTEG.
> > > 
> > > One other issue I like with BE today, is the ability to do a full
> > restore
> > > including OS and have everything work in the time it takes to restore
> +
> > 1
> > > hour.
> > > 
> > > I am still not so hot on the TSM version of Intelligent Disaster
> > Recovery,
> > > or Bare Metal Restore as it's called here.
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Del Hoobler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: � ������ 14 2000 14:38
> > > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject:      Re: Your experience with Tivoli Data Protection for MS
> > > > Exchange
> > > > 
> > > > Mike,
> > > > 
> > > > >> Seems that a lot of you are happy with the exchange backup.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So let me ask if I may :
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Do you backup Exchange while active or do you shut down the
> > > services
> > > > >> prior to backup ?
> > > > 
> > > > In order to use Tivoli Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange, your
> > > > services must be running.  It uses the Microsoft provided APIs that
> > were
> > > > built to run online backups.  If you bring down the services and
> > > > run a backup, you cannot use TDP for Exchange.  You could use
> > > > the standard backup archive client...BUT.... and this is a big
> BUT...
> > > > ...you will not get online backup data integrity checking that is
> > built
> > > > into the Microsoft APIs and thus TDP for Exchange. When you use
> > > > TDP for Exchange, every page of the database is read and
> check-summed
> > > > to make sure it is consistent.
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2. How many of you have had to restore your whole Exchange from
> > > backup,
> > > > and
> > > > >> how long did it take, and did it work fully or were there any
> > > glitches
> > > > that
> > > > >> had to be retouched to get it all running ?
> > > > 
> > > > I want to answer part of this question...
> > > > You should not have to "retouch" anything.  Any if you do have to
> > > > use ESEUTIL or whatever your favorite tool is... then we want
> > > > to know about it because the APIs were built so that you do not
> > > > have to do this.
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mike
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Del
> > > > 
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > Del Hoobler
> > > > IBM Corporation
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