Thanks everyone for your comments
Thank you
Genet Begashaw
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:41 PM Andrew Raibeck <stor...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Good points, Bob. Some other thoughts:
>
> The FORCE option has no effect for additive options such as DOMAIN,
> INCLUDE, and EXCLUDE. If you think you might want to allow the individual
> system administrator some flexibility on what to include or exclude, omit
> it from the list.
>
> Since the "include.systemstate" option was referenced, I also suggest
> reviewing the following "best practices" link related to backup of Windows
> system state.
>
>
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#!/wiki/Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager/page/Best%20Practices%20for%20Backing%20Up%20Microsoft%20Windows
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
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>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager links:
> Product support:
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/product/tivoli/tivoli_storage_manager
>
> Online documentation:
>
> http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7/landing/welcome_ssgsg7.html
>
> Product Wiki:
>
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 2018-06-14
> 10:39:07:
>
> > From: Robert Talda <r...@cornell.edu>
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Date: 2018-06-14 10:55
> > Subject: Re: How to set default include/exclude rules on server but
> > allow clients to override?
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
> >
> > Efim is correct, both about the force and about processing order.
> > I got ahead of myself. We built our client option sets to be as
> > inclusive as possible, within minimal include and exclude
> > statements, so that clients could override the behavior with
> > includes and excludes that got processed because there were no
> > conflicting server side options. Resulted in a blind spot in my
> > thinking - we haven’t had a customer need to override the management
> > classes provided.
> >
> > A possible alternative solution: create a separate domain with the
> > same management classes, but with different retention and storage
> > characteristics defined by those classes as needed. Then, assign
> > the nodes as needed to that domain. That is, get to the same
> > destination - system state information handled in a different manner
> > - by changing the underlying behavior of the assigned management
> > class, not the name
> >
> > FWIW,
> > Bob
> >
> > (And thanks, Efim, for catching my error!)
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Talda
> > EZ-Backup Systems Engineer
> > Cornell University
> > +1 607-255-8280
> > r...@cornell.edu
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 13, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Efim <aefim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > parametr Force has no affect to include/exclude in cloptset.
> > > use q inclexcl client command to check resulting (cloptset
> > +dsm.opt) include/exclude in normal order (from top to bottom).
> > > You will find that server include/exclude processed first.
> > > Efim
> > >
> > >
> > >> 13 июня 2018 г., в 16:43, Genet Begashaw <gbega...@umd.edu> написал
> (а):
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your response, on the server side it was included by
> Optionset
> > >> with force=no, i tried to overwrite in the client side in dsm.optfile
> with
> > >> different mgmt class like shown below
> > >>
> > >> include.systemstate ALL MC-mgmt-name
> > >>
> > >> still did not work
> > >>
> > >> Thank you
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM Robert Talda <r...@cornell.edu>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Genet:
> > >>>
> > >>> For us it is simple: create a client option set with the list of
> > >>> include/exclude rules with FORCE=NO. Complexity comes from number of
> > >>> client options sets needed to support different platforms (Win 7, Win
> 10,
> > >>> OS X, macOS, various Linux destroys) and determining which client
> option
> > >>> set to assign a given node
> > >>>
> > >>> YMMV,
> > >>> Bob
> > >>>
> > >>> Robert Talda
> > >>> EZ-Backup Systems Engineer
> > >>> Cornell University
> > >>> +1 607-255-8280
> > >>> r...@cornell.edu
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Jun 13, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Genet Begashaw <gbega...@umd.edu>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thank you
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Genet Begashaw
> > >>>
> >
>
