Thanks for the comment, Bill. I don't doubt your assertion based on
empirical evidence.

That said, here is chapter and verse of the manual:

>From "Tivoli Storage Manager for AIX Administrator's Reference Version 4
Release 1" (GC35-0404-00, dated July 2000):

Page 135-136, under the Force switch on the DEFINE CLIENTOPT command:

"Force: Speficies whether the client can override the option value. The
value is ignored for additive options, such as INCLEXCL and DOMAIN. The
default is NO. This parameter is optional. The values are:
    Yes - Specifies that the client cannot override the value.
    No - Specifies that the client can override the value."

Later, on page 618 of the same manual, under the description of the
Override output of the QUERY CLOPTSET command, it states:

"Override - Specifies whether the client's option file can override the
option."

I suppose this might be considered somewhat vague, but certainly something
worded that way would lead one to think that "Override=Yes" means that the
option can be overridden, and "Override=No" means it can't.

So, my feeble mind concludes that specifying FORCE=YES in the DEFINE should
then report Override=NO in the QUERY and vice versa.

If it is the intent of the programmers that Bill's comment is the designed
functionality, then I'd think the documentation should be modified, i.e.
the description on page 618 should say something to the effect of:

"Override - Specifies whether the server option will override a client
option of the same name."

----- Message from Bill Mansfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:46:14 -0500 -----
Subject:  Re: Retry: Server Clientoptionset Confusion

Confusingly enough, FORCE=YES and OVERRIDE=YES both mean that the client
cannot override the server setting.



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I sent this last week, to a response of deafening silence. Am I doing
something wrong here, or do I not understand how these are supposed to
work?



Server: TSM 4.1.0.0 running on H70 with AIX 4.3.3 ML8
Client: Various, running TSM for AIX 4.1.0.0


If I execute the following commands:

Session established with server ADSM: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 4, Release 1, Level 0.0
  Server date/time: 10/12/01   12:31:15  Last access: 10/12/01   08:10:29


tsm: ADSM>define cloptset test1
ANR2046I DEFINE CLOPTSET: Optionset TEST1 defined.

tsm: ADSM>define clientopt test1 compression yes force=yes
ANR2050I DEFINE CLIENTOPT: Option COMPRESSION defined in optionset TEST1.

tsm: ADSM>q cloptset test1

Optionset                     Description                   Last Update by
Managing profile
                                                            (administrator)
-------------------------     -------------------------     ---------------
--------------------
TEST1                                                       CHABA

Option                        Sequence     Override     Option Value
                                number
-------------------------     --------     --------
------------------------------------------------------------
COMPRESSION                          0          Yes     yes


It would seem to me that if I specify FORCE=YES, that would equate to
OVERRIDE=NO, based on the descriptions in the docs (TSM for AIX Admin Ref,
GC35-0404-00, pages 134-136 and 618).


Now, consider my production environment:

We use a single cloptset on our server, and define it to virtually all of
our client nodes. See below:

tsm: ADSM>q cloptset clientoptionset

Optionset                     Description                   Last Update by
Managing profile
                                                            (administrator)
-------------------------     -------------------------     ---------------
--------------------
CLIENTOPTIONSET               Unix and Desk Top client      ADMIN
                               option sets

Option                        Sequence     Override     Option Value
                                number
-------------------------     --------     --------
------------------------------------------------------------
CHANGINGRETRIES                      0          Yes     4
COMPRESSION                          0           No     no
MAXCMDRETRIES                        0          Yes     2
RETRYPERIOD                          0          Yes     20
SCHEDMODE                            0           No     polling
TAPEPROMPT                           0           No     no
TXNBYTELIMIT                         0          Yes     25600


Yet, I use SCHEMODE PROMPTED in the dsm.sys file of all my AIX clients, and
they in fact run prompted, when this cloptset shouldn't allow that. On the
other hand, this option set *should* allow local overriding of the
CHANGINGRETIRES option, but any attempt to do so on several of my client
machines seems to be ignored.

I'm now officially confused. Any and all guidance would be appreciated.

Steven Chaba
Lead Analyst
Rochester Gas & Electric Corporation
Rochester, NY
716.771.2137 v

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