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>>--> 10-31-01  08:20  S.SHEPPARD     (SHS)    Re: 3494+VTS+TSM

Not sure who 'they' are, but if you are not CPU constrained, using
OS/390 as the TSM server is certainly not a 'bad idea', although using
the VTS could be.  This list has a flood of posts concerning all manner
of problems and questions concerning other servers and various ATLs
including the 3494, NONE of which are of any concern on the OS/390
server, given the robust tape management in the RMM component.

Sam Sheppard
San Diego Data Processing Corp.
(858)-581-9668
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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:59:38 -0500
From: "Seay, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3494+VTS+TSM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OK,
Bad idea to use the OS/390 as the TSM Server is what they are saying and
also not a good idea to use a VTS because TSM fills tapes up.  Typically,
users install the OS/390 version and eventually move to AIX.

Now, the idea of sharing your 3494 with a AIX TSM server and install some
3590 drives is a good idea.  And if you are small enough you may be able to
get by with a W2K server.  We run both.  The 3494 support is not going away
for a long time.  IBM is installing a lot of 3494s in the open systems world
at customer sites that do not believe Ultrim is ready for prime time.  They
just installed 2 in our area last week.  There is no follow on product
announced.

We have 2 3494s with HA, a total of 38 open systems 3590E drives, 1 VTS, and
20 S/390 drives.  I have presented numerous times of how to implement this
kind of configuration in a multi-vendor environment on AIX, SUN, S/390, W2K,
and SGI.  It works great.  We actually have both Netbackup and TSM, 28TB of
Shark storage.

I will be presenting again on this subject at Share in Nashville.

Your skittishness because of the 3466 debacle has merit, but it does not
apply here, at least for 5 years.


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From: Mahesh Tailor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3494+VTS+TSM


Hello, all!

I am not a 3494 expert, so please forgive my ignorance in the way I refer to
this platform.

We have a 3494 VTS system/library installed that is currently being used by
our OS/390 mainframe for its backups.  I would like to know if it is
possible for me have TSM utilize this system for it's storage also?  Is
there any good documentation about how to do this?

Also, I spoke with our Tivoli TSM marketing specialist about this and was
told, in fairly certain terms, that this was a **BAD** idea because of two
reasons:

1) BAD performance
2) the same thing that happened to the 3466 (i.e. Tivoli does not recognize
it or support it as a true TSM platform) IS GOING to happen to the 3494
system, since it is also somewhat based on the same concept and that if we
implement this, we were almost sure to lose support from Tivoli in the near
future.

BTW, one reason I ask is that I have a 3466 and am having a hell of a time
getting support for this platfrom ever since Tivoli inherited ADSM/TSM and
given the strong word of caution from a TSM person at Tivoli, I am reluctant
to proceeed with the 3494 integration and upgrade.

Can anyone tell me whether any of this is true and lay my fears to rest?

In case you don't feel comfortable emaling the list, please send me a
message directly and I will ensure that your email stays confidential.

TIA

Mahesh Tailor
WAN/NetView/TSM Administrator
Carilion Health System
Voice: 540-224-3929
Fax: 540-224-3954

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