I have my log in NORMAL mode too and I have found the main thing
that consumes the log is clinet DB backups.  I have an Oracle on AIX
vi RMAN that drivesa it the most.  TDP for MSSQL can too.  (I have one
client that has about 15GB DB MSSQL and normally causes no problem.
One time there was a problem with client network and it had slow
comm and that drove log way up.  I guess the thing is that an individual
DB or file has to complete and it not completing uses log space.)

I have little problem with the number of clients running at once, it's just
the items above that cause any use of log space.

I have 3.7.4.0 server on AIX with 130GB Disk pool and 2 GB Recovery 
Log.  About 120 clients and backup 250-300 GB a day.

David Longo


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I should have specified that our TSM server is in NORMAL log mode. How can I
determine what is using recovery log space?

John G. Talafous              IS Technical Principal
The Timken Company            Global Software Support
P.O. Box 6927                 Data Management
1835 Dueber Ave. S.W.         Phone: (330)-471-3390
Canton, Ohio USA  44706-0927  Fax  : (330)-471-4034
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-----Original Message-----
From: Talafous, John G. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Recover log at 5120MB and full - Cannot start TSM

Thanks to all who responded and helped get our server back up and running.
Now comes the task of figuring out what caused the recovery log to fill up
in the first place and prevent it from happening again.  Does anyone have
any tips and tricks on determining what/who is using recovery log space?

TIA,
John G. Talafous              IS Technical Principal
The Timken Company            Global Software Support
P.O. Box 6927                 Data Management
1835 Dueber Ave. S.W.         Phone: (330)-471-3390
Canton, Ohio USA  44706-0927  Fax  : (330)-471-4034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]           http://www.timken.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Reeves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Recover log at 5120MB and full - Cannot start TSM


Here is what I do when the recovery log fills, also on AIX. My notes agree
with the person who said that the Extend size has to be a multiple of 4
and 1 less than the DSMFMT size. (What the other person said about max
size being 5G, might cause this to not work, though.)

If server will not start because the recovery log is full:
  1) Find a location for an extra recovery log file
  2) DSMFMT -LOG <fullfn> <size1> -- where size1 = 4x+1, where x => 2
  3) DSMSERV EXTEND LOG <fullfn> <size2> -- where size2 = size1-1
  4) DSMSERV -- to start the server normally
  5) Solve the problem that caused the recovery log to fill.
  6) After the server is up, either create a mirror for this recovery log
or preferably remove it from use.

Nancy Reeves
Technical Support, Wichita State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]          316-978-3860


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