You are exactly right Kelly. I have mentioned this before with little attention from IBM/Tivoli. A couple of years ago I worked on a project with IBM to develop a backup/DR solution for Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart's requirements were that bare-metal restores had to be a mere put in of a floppy for Windows client or a tape for UNIX clients and have the store clerks push the power on bottom for that server. When I brought in a Jr. member of my staff to finish up the final touches of the TSM portion of the solution, the IBM client team wrote code that actually provided this functionality.
For NT clients you put in a floppy and turned the computer on, it detected that the system needed to perform a bare-metal restore and pulled the OS image from another NT server and then restored all data, config info and the system registry from TSM. For HP-UX and AIX we were able to put in a bootable tape and walk away. After the tape got the OS backup and running, calls were made to TSM to restore data as of the last backup. Both of these worked like a charm. If anybody from Tivoli would like the IBM reps contact info who owns the code, I would be more than happy to provide it to them. -- Joshua S. Bassi Freelance Consultant & IBM Server/Storage Sales Rep. IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM Cell (408)&(831) 332-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kelly Lipp Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TKG's Bare Metal Restore Unless I miss something, a simple DOS based TSM client with an IP stack would suffice for bare metal restore. One would still have the issue of "seeing" through a RAID controller, but that can be worked as well. The damn data is on the TSM server we just need to get it from something that will run on a floppy or something that can be booted from the network. Come on Tivoli Engineering. Let's get cracking. Veritas is going to thump the hell out of us! Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs, CO 80949 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax: (240)539-7175 -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lawrence Clark Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TKG's Bare Metal Restore People want a single backup solution that has useable disaster recovery features for recreating a server from scratch. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/08/02 03:52PM >>> That's about all we can do I guess. I'm already trying to fight off Veritas here and keep us standardized on TSM. I can't see myself saying to management "TSM is better, but can I buy this Veritas product to use with the TSM?". Their obvious answer would be "why not just buy the whole Veritas solution and avoid dealing with two vendors?". Tivoli needs to supply a native BMR solution, and a native HSM solution for NT/2000. It's nice that they have at least tried to partner with other vendors to provide a solution for what TSM cannot offer itself. The problem is these partnerships don't last. Remember AvailHSM? STAC? I'm guessing we'll be adding TKG to that list eventually. I think enough people want a TSM solution for BMR and a TSM HSM solution for NT/2000 that it warrants the Tivoli R&D dollars. I also realize that Tivoli has a lot of plans to bring new features to TSM and there are only so many R&D dollars to go around. However, as long as Tivoli continues to rely on partners for these solutions I'm going to be cautious about investing time and money in them. What do you all think? Jeff "Joshua S. Bassi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 01/08/2002 01:55:47 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: TKG's Bare Metal Restore Let's all keep our fingers crossed. And call our IBM marketing reps and ask for this type of functionality enhancement be added to the product. -- Joshua S. Bassi Freelance Consultant & IBM Server/Storage Sales Rep. IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM Cell (408)&(831) 332-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff Connor Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TKG's Bare Metal Restore I was considering pitching BMR to managment again this year. I probably won't now. Perhaps this will force Tivoli to develop their own solution which would be much more desirable in my opinion. Hmmm.... if that works... maybe Veritas will purchase OTG so we can get a native TSM HSM solution for NT/2000. :) "Brown, Bud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 01/08/2002 12:00:58 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: TKG's Bare Metal Restore Is anybody currently using BMR and Tivoli concerned with this news? Please take a look at this URL. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/01/08/020108hnveritas.xml Bud Brown Information Services Systems Administrator 303-436-5986
